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    It's not a big deal to me he didn't score in their win. I just wanted to type out some puns that no one got.
    Zero points for Spurs projected pick? Yikes

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    Very impressed again with Jordan Walsh’s defense. He might stay in school another year but if he declares and is available around where the Spurs’s 2nd rounder is I’d love him as a 3 and D project.

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    The tournament itself is pressurized. If he can't shoot in this easy early game, how is he going to react to increasingly better opponents?
    That we'll precisely see... Let's the tournament play out before drawing defintive conclusions... , even if Miller is meh during the tournament, NBA teams will still focus on potential.
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    Zero points for Spurs projected pick? Yikes
    I think the death threats against him might have impacted his play - they now have armed guards for him for the tournament

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    Damn Arizona loosing to Princeton was quite the shocker

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    I think the death threats against him might have impacted his play - they now have armed guards for him for the tournament
    You know who didn't get to hire an armed guard to protect her?

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    You know who didn't get to hire an armed guard to protect her?
    Handing someone a gun for self defense isnít a crime.

    Sincerely,

    Every white guy whoís ever handed a gun to a friend.

    If you donít think itís right that Miller wasnít charged as the 3rd degree of separation from the actual murderer and accomplice then we should stop electing gun culture advocates who demand gun ownership come with zero accountability.

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    Handing someone a gun for self defense isn’t a crime.

    Sincerely,

    Every white guy who’s ever handed a gun to a friend.

    If you don’t think it’s right that Miller wasn’t charged as the 3rd degree of separation from the actual murderer and accomplice then we should stop electing gun culture advocates who demand gun ownership come with zero accountability.
    Indeed and that's the whole point, from a moral point of view.

    Why did he give the gun? If he knew, there's ofc no debate. But nobody precisely knows why and what his friend told him. Was there a good idea anyway? No. Should he have had a gun anyway? No. But there's a difference between being stupid and wanting to be cool or take care of your street cred with a bro by giving him the gun he asked, and knowing what was the whole purpose...

    Was his reaction appropriate? No. Something not to underestimate is also his entourage, family, friends, agents... trying to protect the cash cow and whispering all kind of stuff in his ears... And the backlash and death threats are probably not new and could explain part of that reaction. Maybe, maybe not. But again, we don't know anything about any of that...

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    The way things are going, not even sure Scoot is guaranteed in the top 3.

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    Smith Jr. the bed, too. 6 points 2-10 0 rebounds 0 assists 1 steal.

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    Smith Jr. the bed, too. 6 points 2-10 0 rebounds 0 assists 1 steal.
    I've been saying it for a while, he ain't good.

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    The way things are going, not even sure Scoot is guaranteed in the top 3.
    In short bulletpoints, what do people like about him? Is he the next Chris Paul?
    When I watched a few minutes of an ignite game, he didn't look fast or athletic or Steph-esque.

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    guess it really is wemby or bust

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    It's kind of fascinating how people are now suddenly ting on Scoot when maybe we shouldn't have been buying the ungodly hype to begin with.

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    Yeah give me #1 or give me #5-7.

    If not #1 you can go ahead and skip, say, #2, 3, & 4 as well lol

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    Perspectives and echo chambers are a funny thing... some of you have talked yourselves into believing this draft is something that it's not. You've craped on it so much you're believing your own narratives. Some of you are going to be stunned in 3 years when you realize that this was the best draft we've seen in quite some time.
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    Perspectives and echo chambers are a funny thing... some of you have talked yourselves into believing this draft is something that it's not. You've craped on it so much you're believing your own narratives. Some of you ate going to be stunned in 3 years when you realize that this was the best draft we've seen in quite some time.
    Because of Cam Whitmore, right? I think it's Cam Whitmore.

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    Because of Cam Whitmore, right? I think it's Cam Whitmore.
    He's definitely a good prospect... like most of the raw talents, he needs to find himself in the right situation with the right development staff.

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    In short bulletpoints, what do people like about him? Is he the next Chris Paul?
    When I watched a few minutes of an ignite game, he didn't look fast or athletic or Steph-esque.
    He had a really high RSCI rating in HS. The end.

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    Neither of those players is a franchise guy. Beal has never even taken the Wiz to the playoffs as The Guy.

    If you put me on the clock with Keyonte and Anthony Black still on the board, I take Black 100 times out of 100. He's bigger, has a MUCH better asst/TO ratio, smokes Keyonte on the efficiency stats like TS% and EF FG%, and gets assists, rebounds and steals at a good rate. With a USG% of 21, he has plenty of room, and with his efficiency, the expectation of increased scoring.
    Black does play 6 more minutes their assist rate and rebound rate are about the same. Adjusted for usage Black has higher turnover rate. Likely that TS and EFG% goes down if they have the same usage. That steal rate is the only one Black has the edge on the stats you provided. He is a better defender for sure, but as a lead guard prospect Keyonte is way more advance.

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    After the guards, i will talk about the fowards who could be available at the end of the first ( trading up) or with our secound rounders.


    Bilal Coulibaly- SF – France – HT: 6-6 –Wingspan : 7'2/7'3 ( 18 yrs old)



    I really like Bilal Coulibaly, watching him here in Paris. Long, athletic player with a good awareness. Big potential especially on D with a huge wingspan, offensively he plays more off the ball, cuts and still progressing.

    He's climbing the boards after some good games with the Metropolitans( Victor's team).







    Jalen Wilson SF – Kansas – HT: 6-8 – WT: 215 Wingspan : 6'8

    Stats: 20.1 pts 8.4 rbs 2.3 ast 42.5 % 33.8 3 pt % ( 5 3pga/g)


    The senior is playing well this year tough the % are not that good, could be a complete player. Not so athletic but good nose fot the basket. More of a mid to end secound rounder for me.

    Only like here https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=m-LGFhn26Gg



    Leonard Miller- G League Ignite (Canada) – HT: 6-10 – WT: 211 – Wingspan: 7-2
    Stats( 24 games) : 18 pts 11 rbs (3.3 offensive) 1.6 ast 0.9 stl 0.8 block 55% 79% Ft 33% 3pt ( 2 3pag)


    After a short hype coming into last year draft, Miller dissapeared a little bit. After a correct season in G league, he could be a good investment with a late pick. He's long, can shoot, rebound.... a good project.



    Kris Murray- Iowa- HT: 6-8 _ WT: 225lbs
    Stats: 20.2 pts 7.9 rbs 2 ast 1.2 block 1 stl 47.6% 33.5 3pt % ( 6.8 3pag) 73% ft

    Keegan Murray twin is having a breakout season in Iowa, now the leader of the team he's solid. Can score in different ways, defend and do a lot of things.




    My wild card, Kobe Brown- 6'7 240 lbs foward from Missouri ( he had a good game yesterday in the tournament), similar to me to Herb Jones on what he could be in the league. Good IQ, complete and mature player.
    Stats : 15.9 pts 6.3 rbs 2.5 ast 1.5 stl 0.5 block 55.9 % 45.8 % 3pts ( 3 3pa/g) 79%ft

    Only the link here : https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=fhgpgcEZQL8


    Mentions : Jaime Jaquez( UCLA), Keyontae Johnson ( Kansas State), Maxwell Lewis( Pepperdine)

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    Perspectives and echo chambers are a funny thing... some of you have talked yourselves into believing this draft is something that it's not. You've craped on it so much you're believing your own narratives. Some of you are going to be stunned in 3 years when you realize that this was the best draft we've seen in quite some time.
    I don’t have a rating for the draft, overall, but I will say that if the draft goes like the mocks, most of the value, other than Wemby, will be found outside of the top 5.

    The biggest echo chamber in all of basketball are NBA mock drafts. Two 20 year olds playing pretty average basketball against high schoolers are rated in the top 5. A former top10 RSCI guard who is playing about the same level of ball is rated in the top 3.

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    Black does play 6 more minutes their assist rate and rebound rate are about the same. Adjusted for usage Black has higher turnover rate. Likely that TS and EFG% goes down if they have the same usage. That steal rate is the only one Black has the edge on the stats you provided. He is a better defender for sure, but as a lead guard prospect Keyonte is way more advance.
    All other thing being more or less equal, you draft the size. Youíre doing a lot of positive projection for Keyonte and a lot of negative projection for Black to get them on that equal footing. A tankathon player comparison tells the real story.
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    All other thing being more or less equal, you draft the size. You’re doing a lot of positive projection for Keyonte and a lot of negative projection for Black to get them on that equal footing. A tankathon player comparison tells the real story.
    Man they really are really different players you are the one that brought up stats in your argument. No point comparing the two really. How you can be 100 sure about prospects at this point? Nobody is.

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    Man they really are really different players you are the one that brought up stats in your argument. No point comparing the two really. How you can be 100 sure about prospects at this point? Nobody is.
    You can’t be sure of an individual prospect, but you can compare archetypes, and I prefer low USG% efficient wings to high USG% small guards. There are just more pathways to a good to great player there. Your mileage may vary.

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