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    I would love to have Black on this team. He's an excellent connector and would help our perimeter defense tremendously.
    He’s been GLUED to Grady . Kept him pretty quiet..

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    Black is actually really good. Heís not scoring a ton, but Sochan scored 9 ppg at Baylor. Iíve seen a block, a deflection, and a steal in the second half. Guys who can affect the game without the ball in their hands are valuable. He looks like he belongs in the game, unlike Smith.
    He was not good in the first half but i like what he's doing in this second half yes. Don't count on him to score but managing the floor, defending he's good.

    The difference between him and sochan is that i could saw more upside offensively for the second one.

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    I would love to have Black on this team. He's an excellent connector and would help our perimeter defense tremendously.
    The question is how high you're ready to grab Black ? 6 or 7 ?

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    Wembanyama isn't in the same category as Duncan. The rest of the players are probably better than Keith Van Horn and Ron Mercer.
    Maybe not, but I totally understand the analogy and the point he was making.

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    The question is how high you're ready to grab Black ? 6 or 7 ?
    I don't know. I just don't know what to do with the Thompsons, Whitmore, etc., probably Hendricks, too. I think they'll go before him and I do think others will go before him, too. It's a weird year. I think Sochan was better last year and went 9. Right now I'll just say I like him as a player and would love him on the Spurs. He's a gamer, he has a lot of skills, he just doesn't burst out of the box. I do see a long-term plus player handling the ball and playing D. Just no idea what you do if the Spurs get picks 4-5-6-7, say.

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    Oh, meant to say, I like Jordan Walsh. A SRP guy or dunno if he stays. Heady player who does a lot of stuff, not sure about a nba guy though.

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    He’s been GLUED to Grady . Kept him pretty quiet..
    Often he plays the point-of-attack guard. Stuck him on I suppose to keep him out of foul trouble and to make sure didn't go off. Kansas didn't have a ton of outside shooting otherwise.

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    The question is how high you're ready to grab Black ? 6 or 7 ?
    The Spurs could be prisoners to the esteemed Pick #2.

    And trading down always sounds great in theory but rarely attracts a willing partner in reality.

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    The Spurs could be prisoners to the esteemed Pick #2.

    And trading down always sounds great in theory but rarely attracts a willing partner in reality.
    The Jay Williams Memorial Cursed #2 pick. Honestly, this board has been ting on the Thompson twins and Scoot, but they are good prospects and possibly very good. Trading down isn't impossible - it's happened before, certainly - but definitely harder than we'd perhaps want.

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    Just so wild to me how we're supposed to evaluate these supposed top 10 picks who are having very little impact in their tournament games.

    Here are Tankathon's players in the top 12 and in the tournament and how they've fared so far:


    • Brandon Miller: 0 pts in first game


    • Jarace Walker: 16 pts, 6 reb, 2 blk in first game; 2 pt, 3 reb at halftime of second game, down by 10 to the 9 seed


    • Anthony Black: 12 pts on 4-12, 6 reb, 1 ast, 3 stl, 1 blk in game 1; 4 pts on 1-6, 4 reb, 2 ast, 1 stl, 1 blk in game 2


    • Gradey : 19 on 7-13, 11 reb, 5 ast, 3 stl in game 1; 7 pts on 3-9, 7 reb, 1 ast in game 2
    • Nick Smith Jr: 6 pts on 2-10, 1 steal in game 1; 0 pts 1 reb, 1 ast in game 2
    • Keyonte George: 9 pts on 2-9, 3 reb, 1 ast, 1 stl in game 1
    • Cason Wallace: 7 pts on 2-11; 4 reb; 5 ast; 2 stl in game 1


    Only Waker, Black and have put up any performances that even remotely catch the eye, and for 1 game only

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    The Spurs could be prisoners to the esteemed Pick #2.

    And trading down always sounds great in theory but rarely attracts a willing partner in reality.
    Everything has to go right, assuming no Wemby. We have to get 2, Orlando has to be at 5, or jump to 4, and Chicago has to stay put. Currently, that would be 2 for 4 or 5 + 7. I’d do it in a heartbeat, because I’d bet that neither twin is in the Spurs top 10, and Scoot might barely be. They would probably get the player they value at 2 at pick 5, and then 7 would be a freebie.

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    Everything has to go right, assuming no Wemby. We have to get 2, Orlando has to be at 5, or jump to 4, and Chicago has to stay put. Currently, that would be 2 for 4 or 5 + 7. I’d do it in a heartbeat, because I’d bet that neither twin is in the Spurs top 10, and Scoot might barely be. They would probably get the player they value at 2 at pick 5, and then 7 would be a freebie.
    I think you can trade to another team for their somewhat later pick and then later draft capital. Orlando isn't the only route.

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    What’s gonna be interesting is say the spurs land the #4 pick… it’s the question that is asked every year do you draft best player available or fit? Amen Thompson most likely is the best available but do we do that when we’re trying to develop Vassell and Branham who play the same position.

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    Jarace Walker already has 3 fouls

    10 left in the 2nd

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    That 2023 draft combine is going to have to fill in a lot of gaps

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    I think you can trade to another team for their somewhat later pick and then later draft capital. Orlando isn't the only route.
    Probably the best one, though. Would be 2 lottery picks, and Iím not sure you get that anywhere else.

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    What’s gonna be interesting is say the spurs land the #4 pick… it’s the question that is asked every year do you draft best player available or fit? Amen Thompson most likely is the best available but do we do that when we’re trying to develop Vassell and Branham who play the same position.
    My thought is that neither twin is in their top 10. They’re hype bait.

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    My thought is that neither twin is in their top 10. They’re hype bait.
    Maybe so, it’s still early on but they at least have upside similar to Sharpe last year lol

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    Jarace Walker already has 3 fouls

    10 left in the 2nd


    He's been showing some good stuff, imo. Nine boards, five blocks. Not shooting well, but hit a three. You see a big, physical PF who can grow into something even more. He's like built as Duren was last year. Some of these nineteen year-olds are ridiculous.

    I still question that kind of PF archetype in the modern NBA, though.

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    Probably the best one, though. Would be 2 lottery picks, and I’m not sure you get that anywhere else.
    Yeah. I'm just saying that it's not the only route. Honestly think if the Spurs get a 2-4 and don't really want it, there will be visitors.

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    My thought is that neither twin is in their top 10. They’re hype bait.
    Agree, mostly. But the point is where they will actually be drafted. I don't see Amen not going in the top 5 and Ausar not going in the top 8-10 right now.

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    Yeah. I'm just saying that it's not the only route. Honestly think if the Spurs get a 2-4 and don't really want it, there will be visitors.
    I think that only 2-3 are hot items. I’d rather have 2, and negotiate with 4 or lower. They may have a player they want that they’re not sure will be there at 3.

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    I think that only 2-3 are hot items. I’d rather have 2, and negotiate with 4 or lower. They may have a player they want that they’re not sure will be there at 3.
    The first four will be something like:

    1. Wembanyama
    2. Henderson
    3. Brandon Miller
    4. Amen Thompson

    There will probably be teams that really really want Amen Thompson.

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    I honestly don't think the Tournament performances matter that much as far as evaluating players for NBA GMs. It does, but they really focus on the potential they believe they see in those young guys and how they could develop it.

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    Everything has to go right, assuming no Wemby. We have to get 2, Orlando has to be at 5, or jump to 4, and Chicago has to stay put. Currently, that would be 2 for 4 or 5 + 7. I’d do it in a heartbeat, because I’d bet that neither twin is in the Spurs top 10, and Scoot might barely be. They would probably get the player they value at 2 at pick 5, and then 7 would be a freebie.
    I like Scoot alot, but not more that 4 + 7. I'd do that deal..

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