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    kansas st has the best pg in the nation........he is only 5 8 but he can assist like nash

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    kansas st has the best pg in the nation........he is only 5 8 but he can assist like nash
    I'm actually watching
    He's pretty darn entertaining
    Always talk about a big point being able to look/pass over, but how about look and pass under


    I wonder if he'll cut it in the NBA?

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    Black might end up as a contributing NBA player but he's definitely not who the spurs should draft with their first pick IMHO... Nice defensive instincts, very aggressive and I respect the player but too limited on offense. Not a playmaker and can't create for himselff. And spurs need more than a facilitator as a priority. I might take him with a second pick tho, should the spurs trade down, which they probably won't or manage to do.

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    I'm actually watching
    He's pretty darn entertaining
    Always talk about a big point being able to look/pass over, but how about look and pass under


    I wonder if he'll cut it in the NBA?


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    I'm actually watching
    He's pretty darn entertaining
    Always talk about a big point being able to look/pass over, but how about look and pass under


    I wonder if he'll cut it in the NBA?
    Not sure tbh, size def an issue. But he has the fire.

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    Black might end up as a contributing NBA player but he's definitely not who the spurs should draft with their first pick IMHO... Nice defensive instincts, very aggressive and I respect the player but too limited on offense. Not a playmaker and can't create for himselff. And spurs need more than a facilitator as a priority. I might take him with a second pick tho, should the spurs trade down, which they probably won't or manage to do.
    He's not the franchise player who you'd expect out of a tanking season, the problem is, there are not that many of those in this class. My shortlist at the top is:
    Franchise players:
    1) Wemby (duh!)
    All Stars:
    2a / 2b) Scoot Henderson / Brandon Miller (depending on who picks at 2)
    4) Cam Whitmore (last potential star IMO)
    Quality starters:
    5) Jarace Walker
    6) Anthony Black
    7) Gradey
    From this point onwards it becomes a crapshoot. I have:
    8) Keyonte George (undersized and inefficient chucker, but has potential to improve)
    9) Cason Wallace (good but overrated defender IMO)
    Then you have GG Jackson, Dariq Whitehead and Dereck Lively who I'd consider starting at 15-20, but they're projects mostly.
    We may be able to land an interesting role player with our best 2nd rounder (Strawther, Colby Jones, Jaquez), but unless we get lucky in the lottery or some dumb team pushes talent back by taking the Thompson twins, we're f*cked.
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    I'm actually watching
    He's pretty darn entertaining
    Always talk about a big point being able to look/pass over, but how about look and pass under


    I wonder if he'll cut it in the NBA?
    He'll obviously get abused something fierce on D so he better bring a ton in every other facet to the game to offset that.
    Going to be tough, but he sure is fun to watch.

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    I love Timme's game, but dude looks like he went ahead and registered his own birth with a cigarette in his mouth and a beer bottle in his hand.

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    Timme reminds me of Scola quite a bit.
    I'll take Jaquez with one of our 2nd rounders if available. Very smart and crafty.

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    He's not the franchise player who you'd expect out of a tanking season, the problem is, there are not that many of those in this class. My shortlist at the top is:
    Franchise players:
    1) Wemby (duh!)
    All Stars:
    2a / 2b) Scoot Henderson / Brandon Miller (depending on who picks at 2)
    4) Cam Whitmore (last potential star IMO)
    Quality starters:
    5) Jarace Walker
    6) Anthony Black
    7) Gradey
    From this point onwards it becomes a crapshoot. I have:
    8) Keyonte George (undersized and inefficient chucker, but has potential to improve)
    9) Cason Wallace (good but overrated defender IMO)
    Then you have GG Jackson, Dariq Whitehead and Dereck Lively who I'd consider starting at 15-20, but they're projects mostly.
    We may be able to land an interesting role player with our best 2nd rounder (Strawther, Colby Jones, Jaquez), but unless we get lucky in the lottery or some dumb team pushes talent back by taking the Thompson twins, we're f*cked.
    Should probably include Taylor Hendricks. I don't know if there are a ton of others who will press into the top ten. We might see a guy like Leonard Miller get a good look. This draft takes a nosedive pretty quickly but I think there are gems to be had later in the round and into the front of the second round.

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    Arkansas was completely overwhelmed by perhaps the best team playing right now, but Black fought hard. Five steals is great, and he drew enough fouls, a quiet skill for him, to shoot 11 free throws.

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    oof Nick Smith Jr stock must be plummeting, wonder how far he will fall.

    2 straight impactless tourney games where ARK was downright hiding him.

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    oof Nick Smith Jr stock must be plummeting, wonder how far he will fall.

    2 straight impactless tourney games where ARK was downright hiding him.
    1. I think James Wiseman and Shaeden Sharpe have proven this: if you get rated high, don't play basketball. Smith did himself wrong by being a warrior and trying to come back.

    2. There is something really, really y going on with high school evaluators. Smith wasn't good. Dariq Whitehead ing sucked compared to his ranking. Lively is only pretty good. Keyonte George is a guy who hits every third shot he takes. Dillon Mitc , bad.

    3. What does Smith do now? I'm guessing stay in, but he'll go late lottery if anything. Too bad. Seems like a good kid.

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    Black might end up as a contributing NBA player but he's definitely not who the spurs should draft with their first pick IMHO... Nice defensive instincts, very aggressive and I respect the player but too limited on offense. Not a playmaker and can't create for himselff. And spurs need more than a facilitator as a priority. I might take him with a second pick tho, should the spurs trade down, which they probably won't or manage to do.
    I’m gonna go ahead and disagree with you. Black turned dog into leading his team in scoring tonight while also busting his ass on the defensive end.

    He’s not a volume scorer first option but he’s absolutely Spurs material.

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    1. I think James Wiseman and Shaeden Sharpe have proven this: if you get rated high, don't play basketball. Smith did himself wrong by being a warrior and trying to come back.

    2. There is something really, really y going on with high school evaluators. Smith wasn't good. Dariq Whitehead ing sucked compared to his ranking. Lively is only pretty good. Keyonte George is a guy who hits every third shot he takes. Dillon Mitc , bad.

    3. What does Smith do now? I'm guessing stay in, but he'll go late lottery if anything. Too bad. Seems like a good kid.
    Yeah I give him credit he could have packed it in and probably would have been drafted higher then he will be if he stays in. But I think he is still a first rounder one of his main problems he is is so damn skinny he is easily pushed around. He will definitely need to add 10 to 15pds which will help him finish and be confident to take it to the rim.

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    We know what the Spurs need in this draft but if they’re picking at say 5, they have to take the best player available for the team. It will likely be a starter/role player like Jarace or Anthony Black, maybe Taylor Hendricks, and just have to accept that it’s Wemby or bust, so to speak.

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    If we do not get Wemb. I would still be a happy camper if we we could pick up Brandon Miller who would probably end up starting at SF by the end of the season. He gives us a major floor spacer with his 3 ball shot and he is also a very good rebounder which is another area this team needs to improve on.

    With Miller picked then in the second round pick up Jaime Jaquez - another gritty smart player who plays tough and is a very good rebounder. He would be a fan favorite in SA for sure. If not him then maybe Strwathers from Gongaza or Coulibaly who plays with Wemb.

    So after that pick I believe we got the Raptors and i would definitely take 611 PF Azuolas Tubelis - just all around great basketball players - he rebounds he scores inside and has a high motor. I definitely think he could play some Center for us.

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    We know what the Spurs need in this draft but if they’re picking at say 5, they have to take the best player available for the team. It will likely be a starter/role player like Jarace or Anthony Black, maybe Taylor Hendricks, and just have to accept that it’s Wemby or bust, so to speak.
    Jarace has a chance to be much more than that...

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    Yeah I give him credit he could have packed it in and probably would have been drafted higher then he will be if he stays in. But I think he is still a first rounder one of his main problems he is is so damn skinny he is easily pushed around. He will definitely need to add 10 to 15pds which will help him finish and be confident to take it to the rim.
    He's still going top 10...

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    No Brandon Miller for me. Hes near retirement age already because he was held back since hes a knucklehead. Havnt seen anything lately from him. He was getting pat down after someone got murdered, no common sense.

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    Jarace has a chance to be much more than that...
    Agree in general. I like him. But lots of question marks on players outside of Wemby. That’s my main point, along with we have to accept that we likely aren’t getting a surefire star despite being a terrible team.

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    No Brandon Miller for me. He’s near retirement age already because he was held back since he’s a knucklehead. Havnt seen anything lately from him. He was getting pat down after someone got murdered, no common sense.
    So you’ll skip on talent because he’s 1 year too old for you?

    He’s 20. He’ll be 20 at the start of next season.

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    Im gonna go ahead and disagree with you. Black turned dog into leading his team in scoring tonight while also busting his ass on the defensive end.

    Hes not a volume scorer first option but hes absolutely Spurs material.
    Oh, we agree. I like him, reason why I said I'd still take him should the spurs trade down (not happening). But is he the dominating star you need and tanked hard for? As you said, probably not the first option scorer you need. Now saying this, if all your other options are gone (and how many are they actually?) maybe you consider him at 5.

    I'm starting to have a really bad feeling with Scoot and Miller potentially comes with huge off court issues... I like Whitmore but you might be only left with Wemby and prayers...

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