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I'm assuming no Primo incidents were known of prior to the draft.
I mean would Tracy have been able to find some flashing instances were he assigned to the Primo case pre draft?
Yeah, I'm familiar with him, which is why him just doing this 'yeah, this guy kind of sucks but I'm ranking him high because of feelings' with Filipowski (especially) is kind of weird. Filipowski is a big lumbering guy who isn't good at what he's supposed to be good at, but Dean is like, "yeah, but what if he gets good?"
I'm assuming no Primo incidents were known of prior to the draft.
I mean would Tracy have been able to find some flashing instances were he assigned to the Primo case pre draft?
Just learned Miller apparently had a groin injury during the Tournament.
Probably too much tossing off to everyone picking him over Scoot for #2
TBH I'm terrified of Wemby too given how players as tall as him rarely have long and/or consistent NBA careers. Yao, Sabonis, and Sampson are pretty much the best of the best at that size and each of them had terrible injury history. And Sampson wasn't even that good healthy. The only decent player that size I can even think of who wasn't a China doll was Mark Eaton. You gotta take him for his talent but Wemby is no sure thing like Tim or LeBron.
EDIT: Forgot Rik Smits, he wasn't too injury prone either
Last edited by baseline bum; 03-27-2023 at 10:38 PM.
Yeah, this was stated during the time. I kinda doubt it.
fine
16. Cam Whitmore
Whitmore is a thick 6’7 at 232 pounds and a good athlete who loves to dunk the ball, and has a decent shot making 35% 3P 72.1% FT. He is also one of the youngest prospects in the class, turning 19 in July after the draft.
But he also plays somewhat like a smaller Jabari Parker, as he is often tries to create with pure brute force and is prone to tunnel vision with 1.1 assists vs 2.4 turnovers per 40. He also drew a curiously low 0.25 FT rate given his style and tools.
He is young enough for this to not be a death knell, and perhaps he can evolve into a Tobias Harris type of NBA player who is a coveted wing. And he is young enough to become even better than Tobias if things go really well.
He is a pure gamble on youth and tools. There is definitely enough there for him to have potential, but it comes attached with some chunky bust risk.
The whole GLeague vs College nonsense (and thinking it matters which league a prospect goes to, in general) falls flat on its face when you think about the players who went straight to the NBA from high school when the rules allowed it:
Amare Stoudamire
Dwight Howard
T-Mac
Kevin Garnett
Kobe Bryant
and…
if we’re going to use all-time greats like Duncan & Robinson (which no top prospect follows the 4 year plan these days anymore so they are bad examples anyway)
…LeBron James
I guess these assholes had pointless careers because they didn’t go to college.
i guess they would have been regrettable selections because they didn’t go to college for one year to learn how to handle game-time situations and learn how to make their teammates better. It would totally be the right call to pass on them at the time. high school tape anyway, these dumbasses should have gone to college to show how compe ive they really are. No way the talent they showed in high school is legit.
Lol. And I’m going to throw my own patronizing card in here. I’m going to say people who are this dismissive of players who don’t go to college is just an excuse for their lack of ability to recognize talent when it’s there. Downright ridiculous to say things like “people who think Scoot’s good don’t watch the gleague” when I’ve watched that and college for prospects relentlessly. I’m the last dude who should be accused of that.
Last edited by Dejounte; 03-28-2023 at 05:48 AM.
My best case scenarios for the Spurs:
1) If they land the #1 pick, draft Wemba
2) If they land the #2 pick, draft Scoot
3) If they land pick #3 or below and are unable to make a trade for an additional 1st rd pick, draft Cam Whitmore
4) If they land pick #3 or below and are able to make a trade for another 1st, draft Jarace Walker and one of Jordan Hawkins or Rayan Rupert
Any of these scenarios happen and I’ll be extremely happy (of course none of them will)
If Jarace Walker will only be limited to defending bigs in the NBA, then Rayan Rupert might be the best defender in this draft…
This is my biggest concern with Jarace Walker, he's more of a stocky 4/5 (and undersized at that), and may not have the easiest path transitioning to defending in the NBA, where he'll find himsef facing wings much faster, skilled and athletic than he's used to. Also his 3 pt shot dipped, and he's not my ideal long term partner with Sochan.
Ryan Rupert sounds ok for mid teens onwards, but if he's our top pick it'd be extremely underwhelming. Depressing, I should say.
No love for Wallace?
I keep hearing about how much he's the next Jrue, but every time I've watched him, I've seen players blow by him plenty. Granted, I didn't watch every bit of every game, but enough of a sample to make me seriously doubt it was just bad luck. Otherwise he's an ok guard, he can handle the ball and he's a good shooter, but his calling card is defense and I don't have anywhere near enough confidence to take him where we'll pick. But he's ok if we find ourselves with an extra late lottery pick (not my first choice though).
Not advocating Rayan for our top pick but in case there is a trade for an additional 1st.
Imo you answer the question about jarace, he's an inside guy who can defend some wings and that's ok if the defense is good overall( wich is the case). I don't have too much concern about the undersized thing as the nba goes smaller and smaller and he's really strong.
Some good stuff here.
Ok about the pairing with Sochan, may not be the ideal pair. Not sure where he could be the pick, the Spurs will pick 7 max so maybe that's where i could start take him.
He could be, he is a really hard worker.
The french kids this year are actually really impressive. Wemby, obviously, but then there are 3 wings: Rayan Rupert (playing in NZ), Bilal Coulibaly (playing in Fra) and Sidy Cissoko (playing in the G-League), all of whom look like they might make it as NBA players...
Our front corps is pretty weak behind Sochan— that’s the only reason I’m okay with seeing how Jarace would work, accepting the fact that it might take a little or a lot of imagination for him to become more than what he looks like right now. The apparent upside that he displays on the defensive end is something that could pay off if the Spurs go in that direction.
Walker is a very good defender he moves his feet really well and his 7’2 wingspan really helps with help side defense. I think he will go around 6 to 9 in the draft as he has been moving up.
He had Jalen Williams at #24.
https://deanondraft.com//?s=2022+big+board&search=Go
Out completely on Miller? For me he is still either option 2 or 3, but I do like Whitmore as the best choice outside of the top 3.
Smits was really good on those 90’s pacers playoff teams good until nerve problems with his feet ended his career.
Wouldn't touch Cissoko with a ten foot pole. He's 6'5", which is pretty average. What is not average is a SG who shoots 31.4% and 64.3% at the line. For some reason, the gleague either can't or wont provide WS or BPM to draft sites, so I'm left with only his dRtg of 121.6 to judge his defense. Not bueno.
Yeah, but the Miami Lobster Claws and Peoria Ice Cream Cones are incredible compe ion.
Well , so it really is just Mark Eaton at that size as the only guy to have a full and stable NBA career.
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