Draft projects to watch besides Wembanyama & Henderson

[rascal]

Even if you can consider SGA, Giddey and Jalen Williams as point guards at times, the fact is they can all play together. Further, whoever they’d pick at #2 or 3 is going to be just as redundant as one of those 3 (Scoot, Miller or even a Thompson).

On the other hand, if this was last year’s draft and they were looking to add a premier big to their lineup, I could see it.

Trying to think of who might covet #2, ORL comes to mind because they have lots of young talent already and might view a PG like Scoot as the final piece in their rebuild and may not want the burden of developing two top 10 picks. I’m not sure who else might have an abundance of talent in a certain area that they’d feel like they’d want to swap it out for Scoot. Brandon Miller might actually be more enticing for a lot of teams in that regard.

Utah has three first round draft picks. They can package their top two to get a higher pick and still have a second pick.

[rascal]

Even if you can consider SGA, Giddey and Jalen Williams as point guards at times, the fact is they can all play together. Further, whoever they’d pick at #2 or 3 is going to be just as redundant as one of those 3 (Scoot, Miller or even a Thompson).

On the other hand, if this was last year’s draft and they were looking to add a premier big to their lineup, I could see it.

Trying to think of who might covet #2, ORL comes to mind because they have lots of young talent already and might view a PG like Scoot as the final piece in their rebuild and may not want the burden of developing two top 10 picks. I’m not sure who else might have an abundance of talent in a certain area that they’d feel like they’d want to swap it out for Scoot. Brandon Miller might actually be more enticing for a lot of teams in that regard.

Would you trade #2 to Utah for #6 and #15?

[mo7888]

Would you trade #2 to Utah for #6 and #15?

I wouldn't...but I might trade #3 for #6 + #15

[Ariel]

Would you trade #2 to Utah for #6 and #15?

No, but if Cam Whitmore is available at 6 and they throw in an extra pick besides #15, I might.

[rascal]

No, but if Cam Whitmore is available at 6 and they throw in an extra pick besides #15, I might.

Asking too much to be asking for all three first round picks from Utah.

[Ariel]

Asking too much to be asking for all three first round picks from Utah.

Did Danny Ainge refrain himself from asking high when he was dealing with Minnesota, Cleveland & NY? He sure didn't. He named his price, and if someone was willing to meet him there, great, if not... moving along. Same thing here. If we have no. 2 and he wants it, a mid first rounder won't cut it IMO. Otherwise just f him and use the pick. You can't always accommodate everyone else first.

[exstatic]

No, but if Cam Whitmore is available at 6 and they throw in an extra pick besides #15, I might.

You don’t draft someone, and hope the trade materializes. You have to agree to 2 for 6 and 15 before the clock expires on 2.

A better trade might be Orlando. If Chicago doesn’t jump in to the top 4, their pick goes to Orlando. If they’re 4 or 5, we might be able to get 4 or 5 and 10.

[rascal]

You don’t draft someone, and hope the trade materializes. You have to agree to 2 for 6 and 15 before the clock expires on 2.

A better trade might be Orlando. If Chicago doesn’t jump in to the top 4, their pick goes to Orlando. If they’re 4 or 5, we might be able to get 4 or 5 and 10.

Trades can happen after the pick.

[Mr. Body]

Utah would have to give more than 6 and 15 for #2. That's not enough.

[Ariel]

You don’t draft someone, and hope the trade materializes. You have to agree to 2 for 6 and 15 before the clock expires on 2.

A better trade might be Orlando. If Chicago doesn’t jump in to the top 4, their pick goes to Orlando. If they’re 4 or 5, we might be able to get 4 or 5 and 10.

You definitely can, if we're talking about the same guy you have no. 2. You take him, wait until 6, and if your other option is available then you pull the trigger. Otherwise you keep him and no trade. It happened lots of times. Orlando is another option, sure. No option should go without proper evaluation.

[rascal]

You don’t draft someone, and hope the trade materializes. You have to agree to 2 for 6 and 15 before the clock expires on 2.

A better trade might be Orlando. If Chicago doesn’t jump in to the top 4, their pick goes to Orlando. If they’re 4 or 5, we might be able to get 4 or 5 and 10.

Of course Orlando is better and you talk first with them but Utah is more likely to trade two of their three first round picks so that is the more likely trade partner.

[rascal]

Utah would have to give more than 6 and 15 for #2. That's not enough.

Cam and Jalen Hood-Shifino or Scoot which is the better side?

[exstatic]

Trades can happen after the pick.

Yes, but that’s usually because the team trading down doesn’t want anyone to know those picks are theirs so teams ahead of those picks do not jump in and grab players the trading down team might want/need. You’ll have trust me that no one trades back on a hope and a prayer, and the deal is agreed upon before the first pick is made. They just delay announcing it for draft purposes.

[exstatic]

Of course Orlando is better and you talk first with them but Utah is more likely to trade two of their three first round picks so that is the more likely trade partner.

You don’t know Danny Ainge at all.

[rascal]

Everyone wants a slam dunk trade steal of course but sometimes there is a hesitation and a little doubt which side is better and those are what trades are about.

Trades have to be attractive to the other team too.

[rascal]

You don’t know Danny Ainge at all.

Neither do you

[rascal]

Yes, but that’s usually because the team trading down doesn’t want anyone to know those picks are theirs so teams ahead of those picks do not jump in and grab players the trading down team might want/need. You’ll have trust me that no one trades back on a hope and a prayer, and the deal is agreed upon before the first pick is made. They just delay announcing it for draft purposes.

Teams don't draft what other teams want. They draft what they want.

[exstatic]

Neither do you

Yes I do. He acquires a war chest of picks, never trades them, and wastes half of them.

[rascal]

Yes I do. He acquires a war chest of picks, never trades them, and wastes half of them.

That's when he deals his stars but it's a different game when he is trading up for the number two pick.

It's possible he trades two of his first rounders for #2.

[JPB]

You don’t draft someone, and hope the trade materializes. You have to agree to 2 for 6 and 15 before the clock expires on 2.

A better trade might be Orlando. If Chicago doesn’t jump in to the top 4, their pick goes to Orlando. If they’re 4 or 5, we might be able to get 4 or 5 and 10.

In Disneyland maybe. I don't know if you trade 4, 5 and 10 for #2 but I know nobody else does in this draft.

[exstatic]

In Disneyland maybe. I don't know if you trade 4, 5 and 10 for #2 but I know nobody else does in this draft.

Reading is fundamental. Not 4,5,10; 4 OR 5 (depending on where Orlando is) and 10

[BackHome]

I think it's 4th OR 5th and 10th for #2pick

[scott]

To your question rascal, I am not sure I do 2 for 6 and 15. I really don’t want a second FRP, tbh, because I think it creates a little too much strain on our development program with Sochan, Bran and Blake in year 2 plus Bassey deserving of developmental staff attention. I’m interested in the 2nd pick if it means Cam and Black, but I’m not sure about adding another talent in a tier below Black (and I don’t know enough about Hood-Schifino at this point).

At this point Cam is my definite target after the top 3. Hopefully though we just get #1 and don’t have to worry about it.

[buttsR4rebounding]

To your question rascal, I am not sure I do 2 for 6 and 15. I really don’t want a second FRP, tbh, because I think it creates a little too much strain on our development program with Sochan, Bran and Blake in year 2 plus Bassey deserving of developmental staff attention. I’m interested in the 2nd pick if it means Cam and Black, but I’m not sure about adding another talent in a tier below Black (and I don’t know enough about Hood-Schifino at this point).

At this point Cam is my definite target after the top 3. Hopefully though we just get #1 and don’t have to worry about it.

If the Spurs did trade back I think it’s more likely given their cap situation it is for a pick and a young player with some seasoning. It is too difficult to try to develop 6 players at the same time—7 if you keep the 32nd/33rd pick.

[mo7888]

Of course Orlando is better and you talk first with them but Utah is more likely to trade two of their three first round picks so that is the more likely trade partner.

I disagree... Utah is just starting the ainge rebuild... Orlando is nearing the 'pay veterans to surround paolo and Franz page'...I don't think Orlando wants to add 2 rookies to there roster... they'll look for a trade, if not us then somewhere else.