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1st + Payton Pritchard, filler for Jakob?
Guessing PATFO turns it down given they reportedly seem to want 2 FRPs.
I'm not sure I quite understand the devotion the Spurs have to Poeltl. He's a solid player but certainly not a game changer, even defensively where he's supposedly is at his best.
Evidence of this comes from the fact that with Poeltl, the Spurs are currently the WORST DEFENSIVE TEAM EVER ALLOWING A 119.9 DEFENSIVE RATING.
Before I get bombarded that it's not Poeltls fault, let me acknowledge that it's a team sport and they each have blame.
If you get offered a FRP, you take a FRP for him.
1st + Payton Pritchard, filler for Jakob?
I'm still looking over our roster for this Jakob Hurdle guy. Might be new.
Do.Not.Want. Don’t care what his ing name is.
I’m pretty sure they’d take one unprotected FRP in lieu of two protectedFRPs, which was their asking price.
we are years away from contending. take on his deal if we get enough back for it. thats what our cap space is for. not for ownership to give away for some pocket cash
not that i like the specific deal discussed in the thread
For 3yrs/$49M, you’d need a handful of FRPs, like 3 minimum, since you could rent the space year by year for that. I don’t want him because I don’t believe Miami would be willing to pay enough to offload his deal, and I don’t want to take less.
Considering the last two teams with #1 picks are circling the drain with us, Spurs should be looking for draft capital and future trade chips. This isn’t going to be a one year rebuild. I’d rather hold on onto McBuckets if there isn’t a good deal for him. I don’t think they are trading Poodle.
Insurance for Horford and Williams. They could really use a third reliable big. Hurdle would probably start in place of Horford tbh and they could close out with either matchup dependent.
Poeltl would be a great fit for Boston. He'd be a good defender, but then provide what Derrick White provides. That's a team of tunnel vision iso scorers and Poeltl can be a high-post hub for the offense and on rolls.
Boston is not the best trade partner for Poeltl. They don't have any interesting youngsters, and their 1st rounders are almost 2nd rounders for the next 2/3 years at least. I'd rather the FO explore trade options with Golden State, Toronto, Chicago, and whomever can give us a first rounder in the 15-20 range (or as close to that as possible).
Agreed; Boston is a well oiled machine currently and Jak could step in and just do whatever is needed on any given night. Plus they need to continue to build their team despite being lux tax payers and his bird rights would be very valuable, allowing them to still access the MLE come July.
Any Boston trade would to include RW3 imo. He is pretty injury prone but has solid upside and is on a team friendly contract for a few more years. Spurs would ask for him in any deal with Boston
Question about BOS: can they use Gallos 6M for marching purposes in a trade with the team that waived him earlier in the year?
If so that makes it easier to match Jakob’s deal. Gallo/Griffen gets you there for example. Otherwise I don’t see it without dumping a player that helps them now.
Absolutely. If they can match salaries, BOS could be a good match. They have all their FRPs after this year (minus the swap to us in 2028). They also have the rockets and blazers SRP this year.
Another thing to watch is Jalen Brown could be gone after summer 2024, meaning picks that come after may be come enticing than they are now.
Nothing says the pick has to be this year or next. Kick it down the road 3-5 years. Atlanta’s picks last year were 3,4, and 5 years out.
I’m pretty sure Gallo can’t return for a year from his cut date.
At thinking R. Williams and Poeltl could/would play together.
The Celtics aren't trading a rotational player. Either Gallinari's salary could be used in a three team trade or they could combine Griffin, Kornet and Jackson to match salaries, with their '25, '27 and '29 1sts available for trade.
They might be willing to offer looser protection than any other given that they're already the best team in the league and R. Williams' lack of durability is arguably their biggest issue.
If it does happen he should wear #71.
Yeah, if Poeltl is insurance for anyone, it's for Robert Williams, whose extremely unreliable availability looms over their championship aspirations.
The Celtics aren't trading a rotational player. Either Gallinari's salary could be used in a three team trade or they could combine Griffin, Kornet and Jackson to match salaries, with their '25, '27 and '29 1sts available for trade.
They might be willing to offer looser protection than any other given that they're already the best team in the league and R. Williams' lack of durability is arguably their biggest issue.
'25 doesn't seem like a good year for a pick, taking into consideration we already have up to 4 picks that year (own + Atlanta + Chicago? -subject to protections- + Charlotte? -if not conveyed before-) and since they can't trade '24 (traded their '23 pick in the Brogdon trade) and '28 (actually they can but it's the pick we own swap rights on), leaving '26, '27 and '29. Given the glut of picks owed to us in '25 and the development process, that would leave '27 and '29 as ideal candidates for a far out, unprotected pick from Boston. I believe Brad Stevens would do that, considering he gave up an (almost) unprotected swap for Derrick White.
This sounds right to me, but it’s also not the situation where a team cuts a player and later resigns him without anything happening in between (I think we did that with Brent Barry). Here another team signed Gallo after we cut him so he has a new deal.
But I do think you have it right, but makes matching salaries with BOS a lot harder.
Griffen, Jackson, and Kornet doesn’t get you enough to match for Jakob. They need either Gallo or Grant included, but the former is complicated by our having waived him already.
The Celtics aren't trading a rotational player. Either Gallinari's salary could be used in a three team trade or they could combine Griffin, Kornet and Jackson to match salaries, with their '25, '27 and '29 1sts available for trade.
They might be willing to offer looser protection than any other given that they're already the best team in the league and R. Williams' lack of durability is arguably their biggest issue.
There could be as many as 4 FRPs in 2025, or as few as 2. Only ours and Atlanta's are sure things. Charlottes may convey in 2024, and Chicagos may not convey in its first oppo in 2025. If Chicago doesn’t convey their pick to Orlando this year, but do next year, our clock with them won’t even start until 2026.
Boston has a couple more days to use an exception they got from the Hernangomez trade, they could use that if they REALLY wanted Poeltl, but they'd have to do so by Thursday. Still, they're over the luxury tax threshold meaning whatever salary they take they pay 3x in tax, and given their recent cost cutting move with us, I'm not sure they're eager to add to the payroll.
Yeah, then it'd have to be Gallinari going to a third team for some other contract. No chance they'd trade G. Williams.
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