Who does not want the Spurs to tank?

[MultiTroll]

this team does not need to lose on purpose ... they clearly are a bottom 4 team in the league. if they were better I would want them to tank ...

Bottom 4 at the end of season?
5th 6th and 7th are right on the Spurs tails.
Spurs do need to occasionally tank the final minute or two.

Remember the truly tanking teams go really low the last month of the season. Last year Grandpa Adulation Seeker seized that to rack up meaningless and extremely costly wins the last month. This year already:

112-111 over Cavs
126-122 over Jazz (after Jazz closed to -3, Trey Jones went all out for two baskets in last 35 seconds)
111-111 tied with Heat with 1:30 to go, Spurs went on to win.

These were very costly wins.

[baseline bum]

Robinson was fully healed and cleared to play.
Even tho sitting Robinson was the 100 right thing to do and helped us land the true foundation of Championships that being Duncan, it was nonetheless a tank.

Meh if they were tanking they would have never brought David back from his back injury when they were 3-15. Would have been re ed to rush him back after breaking his foot in the sixth game he was back.

[MultiTroll]

rush him back

Rush?

The prognosis at the time Dec 23rd was 6 weeks was plenty of time to heal. Link:
Robinson Breaks Bone in Left Foot, Will Miss About Six Weeks - Los Angeles Times (latimes.com)

Dec 24 thus 6 weeks = around Feb 1st week.
, extend it to mid Feb. Or go all the way to March 1st. March 15th even.

Spurs tanked.

[BacktoBasics]

Disagree. Generalational talents don't grow on trees.

Everyone and their mother pushing the winning culture line will rightfully be mocked if Wembanyama goes to one of the top 3 teams and we ate outside of that. Especially given that at present, there's no hope whatsoever to improving beyond at best, a borderline play-in team.
So for all the jibberish about spoken here and other spurs fan sites of building a winning culture, it means nothing if: 1. no free agents of worth a damn will sign here right now anyways and 2. you're season is a success if you make the play-in round.

Again, Michael Jordans are few and far between nor do they show up in every draft. This kid has that ceiling. And even if he doesn't reach such lofty heights, he'll undoubtedly lead a well-built team to a chip or two. You do not pass on that opportunity, just so you can hurry up to finish 7th.

So you want to tear down a culture and this organizations DNA for what? A 20% chance at something that might work out.

No. No rational person does that.

[Mr. Body]

So you want to tear down a culture and this organizations DNA for what? A 20% chance at something that might work out.

No. No rational person does that.

Yeah. It's pretty much how teams like the Wizards become the Wizards.

[MultiTroll]

So you want to tear down a culture

Absolutely want to tear down, burn and spread the ashes over Riverwalk on this:


and this:

For a chance to return to this:

[BacktoBasics]

Absolutely want to tear down, burn and spread the ashes over Riverwalk on this:


and this:

For a chance to return to this:

I've never thought you to be a real fan to begin with. If this is what you visualize as our culture you should find another team.

[baseline bum]

So you want to tear down a culture and this organizations DNA for what? A 20% chance at something that might work out.

No. No rational person does that.

Kawhi Leonard already tore down the team's culture. That ship has sailed.

[rjv]

So you want to tear down a culture and this organizations DNA for what? A 20% chance at something that might work out.

No. No rational person does that.

14% chance-at best.

[MultiTroll]

I've never thought you to be a real fan to begin with. If this is what you visualize as our culture you should find another team.

If what has happened since Zaza is what you visualize as good culture you should find another team.

[Mugen]

"Culture"

[BacktoBasics]

Kawhi Leonard already tore down the team's culture. That ship has sailed.

He was the problem not the organization.

[jjspur]

I see two types of tanking:
One is where the team simply doesn't have talent. The front office signs mediocre players to large contracts who don't produce or players who get injured a lot or just don't play well. They try to win but don't because of lack of talent on the floor. Towards the end of the season when they know they don't have enough wins, they just say screw it and play their 2nd and third stringers for a hope on a lucky bounce in the lottery.

The other type of tanking is when the team does have some talent but the coaches/front office keep certain players deliberately out of games thus "hopefully" insuring a loss and a better chance in the lottery. This will only get them a chance for a top pick but not a guarantee that the team will make the right choice (GOAT Michael Jordan wasn't the first pick). That's on top of another team making an offer to the team in front of your position in the draft or many other variables that may arise at that point.

I know why teams tank, I'm just not a fan of it, especially when tradable players and assets and salary are available now rather than waiting for something that may or may not happen later. Its a choice that teams make, its just not always the best one.

Last time I checked "The process" hadn't produced a conference or an NBA champ yet.

[KingKev]

Mul roll tell em!!

[Dverde]

Definitely okay with tanking. Spurs need a top 3 pick and those don’t fall off trees.

[playblair]

i dont........how can u cheer for a team to tank for a greg oden clone........

[spurraider21]

i dont........how can u cheer for a team to tank for a greg oden clone........

coming from the guy who stans a 6'6 clone of greg oden?

[Mugen]

coming from the guy who stans a 6'6 clone of greg oden?

[JPB]

I'm kind of enjoying your whining about the parent thing. Touch a nerve? And your own analogy doesn't begin to grasp the cultural problems of tanking.

Spurs are doing the right thing. Develop your players. Try to win games. The difference between bare percentage points isn't worth a culture of losing.

I'm begging to realize why so many people get suckered by casinos.

Lol, how old are you? "whining", 'touch a nerve?"..this is basketball, no one (besides you) is here to get validation on a freaking board... But I guess other people will stop trying to explain you spurs odds at getting a great pick are very big... And that it has nothing to do with gambling, but more like investing.

[benefactor]

coming from the guy who stans a 6'6 clone of greg oden?

[TD 21]

So you want to tear down a culture and this organizations DNA for what? A 20% chance at something that might work out.

No. No rational person does that.

If this is what you visualize as our culture you should find another team.

The precious "culture" left when Duncan and Ginobili retired and the dynasty wasn't founded on that, but what all of them are: a combination of great talent and fit.

Trying in vain to maintain that is arrogant, foolish and tone deaf. The league is 75-80% black, the majority of which are from the inner city and they mostly don't identify with it.

By the way, it's a 28% chance for Wembanyama and Henderson if you finish last and a guaranteed top 5 pick. Find me better odds of a non glamor market getting a young centerpiece.

Last time I checked "The process" hadn't produced a conference or an NBA champ yet.

"The process" produced a MVP caliber player, another borderline All-NBA player (for a while) and gave them the opportunity to draft another borderline MVP player (Tatum).

Embiid being annually injured in the playoffs, Simmons and him being terrible fits, Fultz going bust and their inability to make the pieces fit (until now) don't change the fact that it was a rousing success.

[JPB]

For the sake of it, "culture" and "DNA" are nothing without top players and a compe ive team.. D-Rob, Tim, Manu, TP, Bowen... made the culture... Nephew broke it.

[Jordan Jackson]

This team has won like what 32, 33 and 34 games the last few seasons while TRYING to win for the CULTURE.

Hate to break it to some of you - we have a culture, a losing one. All the player development in the world is not changing that.
I’ll gladly take that 14% over whatever the they’ve been doing the last few years.

[KingKev]

^ our culture is that of delusion.

There is plenty of culture in Las Vegas, Vancouver and Seattle. That selling price for the Suns will have more minority owners wanting to cash in….

[offset formation]

So you want to tear down a culture and this organizations DNA for what? A 20% chance at something that might work out.

No. No rational person does that.

Where did I say tear down the DNA? This team is bad enough to only max out in the 6-8, maybe even 10 range if oher factors broke our way. So how does one guarantee that bottom 3 finish? Get rid of Poeltl -- news every week of new potential suitors. Get rid of JRich. Get rid of McB.

Those 3 vets are good enough to elevate this team's ceiling by 4 or 5 spots, if starting near the bottom.

Any other finishing touches around d the edges to lock in a bottom 3 spot would be simple GameDay coaching decisions and minutes delegation within games. Play the rooks in crunchtime. Use odd lineups. Sit a Vassell or Johnson on back to backs or against other marginally talented teams. DNA still intact. Win-win.