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Stop being weird, bro.
Get in here and rep.
Ya ya the perfect situation is develop players, play very well but still lose.
Still the bottom line is win or lose. Do you want the team to risk winning.
Yes or No.
What are you?
I am team Wama pursuit / team Tank 100%
Stop being weird, bro.
100% legit question.
::crickets::
We’re splitting hairs. Tankers at best might improve their odds in the slightest most inconsequential way. Playing to win, the optics to prospective players and development of our own players arguably speaks to bigger long term gains.
We’re naturally going to fall into a high pick. Might as well reap the benefits of pushing a winning culture even if it doesn’t materialize.
I don’t think tanking for one year hurts anything, substantially. Let’s tank this year, get the best pick possible (Wambamthankyamaam or Scoot) sign a couple FA’s, trade for a couple pieces, and get back to our winning ways next year come or high water.
I don’t think tanking for one year hurts anything, substantially. Let’s tank this year, get the best pick possible (Wambamthankyamaam or Scoot) sign a couple FA’s, trade for a couple pieces, and get back to our winning ways next year come or high water.
Tankings for pussies
Losing games on purpose to get your precious 14% is kind of dumb. You wouldn't consider a 14% chance of your dad coming back or your mother loving you to be great odds.
Last edited by Mr. Body; 12-28-2022 at 12:41 AM.
I think they need to make some tough choices. To expect to get Victor is stupid but they still need to tank so they can get, ideally, a top 5 pick, whoever that is. We need talent and because we started the tank so late in the rebuild we have players already making mini-leaps. Don’t get me wrong, we still suck and overachieve but we will be better next year. This is the year to tank. The fanbase won’t support years and years of sucking. Anyway. A lot of factors. Get rid of Josh immediately.
This question had some interest at beginning of season but at this point when they've shown they're in bottom of league it seems pointless to try to turn it around n start winning now
Could you explain this?
Perhaps edit.
Disagree. Generalational talents don't grow on trees.
Everyone and their mother pushing the winning culture line will rightfully be mocked if Wembanyama goes to one of the top 3 teams and we ate outside of that. Especially given that at present, there's no hope whatsoever to improving beyond at best, a borderline play-in team.
So for all the jibberish about spoken here and other spurs fan sites of building a winning culture, it means nothing if: 1. no free agents of worth a damn will sign here right now anyways and 2. you're season is a success if you make the play-in round.
Again, Michael Jordans are few and far between nor do they show up in every draft. This kid has that ceiling. And even if he doesn't reach such lofty heights, he'll undoubtedly lead a well-built team to a chip or two. You do not pass on that opportunity, just so you can hurry up to finish 7th.
So, you really don't wanna understand that it's not Vic or nothing? Or you just can't?
And I'll pass on the grotesque parents comparison... It's sports, dude. no one is dying if Spurs do'nt get the first pick. The correct comparison should be:
If you can have 14% to be a billionaire or you'll "just" be half a millionaire by tanking, is it really stupid to try? Someone IS gonna get Victor anyway. And that'll certainly be a tanking team...
I tried explaining it to him on another topic and now he comes back with the same horrible take. Pointless to even try anymore.
In short, teams tank to guarantee themselves a top5 pick, more or less. Having best odds to win the lottery is a bonus.
This team isn't tanking. They are just a bad basketball team. They are perfectly capable of losing these games without any self sabotage
I'm kind of enjoying your whining about the parent thing. Touch a nerve? And your own analogy doesn't begin to grasp the cultural problems of tanking.
Spurs are doing the right thing. Develop your players. Try to win games. The difference between bare percentage points isn't worth a culture of losing.
I'm begging to realize why so many people get suckered by casinos.
Tanking is for the realists. Trying to win as many games as possible to score a play-in loss and a late lottery pick and think the Spurs will become le contenders is a fantasy. We were only good all those years because we tanked for Robinson and then tanked for Duncan and got lucky. We aren't getting a superstar in free agency. Imagine what the Spurs development group could do with top 3 pick talent.
I want the spurs to win the NBA finals every year, however since that doesn't seem super feasible this season lets see if we can't get a good draft pick for rebuilding.
spurs goal should be player development and scouting. we need our younguns rested and ready for summer league tbh. if we miss a few dozen games here and there on account of DNP, so be it
this team does not need to lose on purpose ... they clearly are a bottom 4 team in the league. if they were better I would want them to tank ...
Don't really buy that the 86-87 Spurs tanked. They were a 28 win team while the 85-86 team won at the same 28 win pace once Johnny Moore got sick. And calling 96-97 a tank doesn't make a lot of sense either since what were they supposed to do, rush David Robinson back after breaking his foot and destroy his career like we saw with Walton?
Robinson was fully healed and cleared to play.
Even tho sitting Robinson was the 100 right thing to do and helped us land the true foundation of Championships that being Duncan, it was nonetheless a tank.
I think PATFO is doing a great job with keeping the Spurs a chance at top pick, while developing players in the process. Already we know Keldon and especially Devin are becoming true go-to players, Sochan emerging as another ballhandler, Zollins has been playing tough, if he can manage not to get fouled-out, but I love his motor and fight. Branham lately has shown he can knockdown shots and starting to also become another facilitator. Tre, Poeltl, even Bassey. They’ve all have shown promising progress.
As mentioned, I only watch the 1st half, where I know Spurs will play good. And after that you’ll have Pop throwing the game for the tank, once he sees what he wants. People worry too much about the score, instead of how players play within a set play, situations. Vassell for instance has been clutch, and promise to be a real good go-to player. It’s a long season. I focus on the good things
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