Investors in NBA teams don't make their money on a season by season spending on players salary that stays under the cap.
They make their money by buying at a particular valuation and selling years later at a higher valuation because the league has gone up in value over that duration. Investors in the Spurs got in when the team was valued in the hundreds of millions, and when they divest, it'll be when the team is valued with another zero at the end of that number....
I agree with that. Our players are not priorities and there's certainly way too much optimism about what spurs could get for their "assets".
I highly doubt Rich or Doug could even land a FRP each, and Jak's certainly not worth 2 FRPs for anyone... And truth is we have no idea why DET, CHA, BKN, TOR, BOS... are actually looking for or ready to give.
The only solid value is our cap space.
No. It has to be paid out at the end of the year.. There is a pot of money that gets apportioned based on the percentage of the cap you receive.
I doubt it comes to that. I’m guessing the Spurs have a lot of small cap trades lined up in case a big trade does not materialize.
Lakers aren't looking to rid themselves of Westbrook just to get rid of him. They would move him for pieces. All talk is that they will attach pics only for players they deem worthy (i.e. if they could get Luka or something).
Without looking into it I suspect a portion of that under the cap salary is already allocated pro-rata same way as if we took on Wes Russ today.
I don't believe that, but if it turns out to be true, then they'll have to keep him because no one is taking him without a pick being attached.
Unless it’s changed, the individual amounts the players get is determined by the players union. That’s probably to prevent exactly what you said - the team trying to take advantage.
So I guess, in practice, the team front office sends the check for the full amount to the players union, and it’s distributed to the players from there. Also, I think the money is distributed in shares, not according to contract size. (Since contract size was negotiated with the team, but this is strictly a player thing.) Back to what you asked, it’s more of an even distribution, I believe.
maybe a trade for kyrie will solve the spurs pg position...trey is fkn
then draft ur big or whatever around kyrie......only for him to pull a pms out of nowhere request another trade...
Spurs will be paying that 12m regardless. Whether to Westbrook or to other players.
So just get a pick with it.
Spurs will pay to reach cap floor. Whether they buy the pick or not.
It's like you have to spend all your money this year. If you didn't. You lose it anyway. Might as well buy an expensive meal
I believe that too. they're desperate for more talent and would try to get something really valuable back.
Could be interesting if they’re willing to part with Mann. Lakers will definitely have compe ion which cuts both ways for our prospects.
Maybe and I said I can see that perspective. But I view knocking Dougs money off next year (regardless of need to do so), not truly taking on any meaningful money this year & keeping Jak to sign or trade still along with entirety of main core outside of Tre as a big win alongside the quality of the pick.
Would you rather have both LA picks lottery protected and maybe a 2nd from BKY or the 1 fully unprotected pick? To me, while I can 100% understand others want more, would still be happy due to that picks potential and value.
Irving is one of those players
I am absolutely perplexed that outside of maybe Clarkson, people think Conley/Beasley are better than Doug/Richardson/Tre/Collins. Nothing points to that fact at all let alone accounting for age, contracts and quality of teammate they are.
All of the Spurs players I mentioned are objectively better than Conley/Beasley or at the very least equal at worst.
Ya I agree with this. It doesn’t have to be a WB full deal. There can be other uses and other teams needing smaller amounts etc…WB is just a huge one where we know LA needs to move him most likely to improve in a significant way.
I don't know but playing in a tanking team certainly doesn't help.
Clippers including Terence Mann may get the deal done.
Maybe - but I highly doubt, unless you are someone that shows lack of effort etc that coaches and NBA talent evaluators care that much. Even on the bad team, they can look at stats, efficiency and advanced metrics to paint a picture and that picture does not have players like Conley/Beasley as better, let alone a lot better, than the guys SA has.
If you look at items 1 - 3 , that point is clearly made. There is no argument with that. We will spend it one way or another. Its everything beyond that amount that gets expensive whether in players or lost salary to a waived player.
Big time players like Kyrie and Russ will get their money one way or another but one bad deal by the team can negatively haunt the franchise for years. You have to remember that this deal will not help the spurs this year (other than getting to the salary floor) for another few years at best. I believe that there are better, more equitable deals out there.
Who ing cares? Why would anyone here care how much money goes towards a first? Its dead money and its not like it stops the Spurs from anything in the future? Are you the Holts?
I'm not in favor of any particular deal, but fans acting like something being expensive when it has no impact on them is hilarious.
And to be clear on something - I am not saying this is the only deal or that it’s the best deal BKY can get etc…lots of deals for them to make and many possible paths. Just a way that seems somewhat clear on how SA can add value to a trade and get something out of it too.
Why would a 26 year old averaging 8ppg be such a difference maker in a kyrie deal?
Why wouldn't you want to rent the capspace for an asset? Better than paying the difference between the current cap figure and the salary floor and getting nothing out of it.
My guess is there are other teams that will want to use the SAS cap space. I don't see a Kyrie trade that sends anything the Spurs way. If they pay twenty million plus for a single draft pick that's not my money.
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