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If that's it, I see Brooklyn just eating the luxury tax and taking the extra pick themselves.
They wouldn't be paying $20 million since Westbrook's salary would be pro-rated to about $15.7 million. The trade deadline is more than 2/3 into the season, just because the allstar game hasn't happened yet doesn't mean we're not way past the halfway mark of the season. And if they stood pad they'd have to spend $12 million more than their current committed salary anyways to hit the salary floor. So in a vacuum it could be like paying $3.7 million for a pick, though more likely it wouldn't cost the Spurs any money since they'd have to send salary out.
If that's it, I see Brooklyn just eating the luxury tax and taking the extra pick themselves.
He has upside and a few 30+ point games so far. All the other offers are washed overpaid players like Westbrook, Lowry, Chris Paul (which I don’t believe is on the table). Beggars can’t be too picky. I think Clippers are going to get this done.
The full salary counts against Brooklyn's luxury tax penalty since Westbrooks full $47 million counts against their cap if they just eat the salary. It's pretty hilarious. His actual salary they payout will be prorated, but not their tax hit.
Dafuq you talking about? Taking on Russ and immediately waiving him isn't going to haunt the franchise for years, it's going to take a couple of hours of Brian Wright's time and he'll net some draft capital for it. There isn't some ghost of Russ's buyout that is going to haunt anyone
Per usual, you've nailed it the analysis on this one. Getting a pick for facilitating Westbrook will cost the Spurs around $4MM for a pick (a bargin), whereas Brooklyn eating the tax bill will make it absurdly expensive. We're in a good position to facilitate on this one.
He’s 26. How much upside does he have? Because of a fluke playoff performance a couple of years ago his name still carries weight?
How does it haunt spurs for years? Westbrook contract expires this year. Richardson, McDermott etc is not really difference maker. Unless you see them as long term pieces? If anything. It will be great for spurs to get out of that McDermott contract. They can sign someone of that calibur rather easily anyway
You said 12m is expensive. So it is not beyond that amount. (which is point 7 of what you stated)
Maybe there are better deals. Spurs will choose what best deal they can get. But on its own. The 12m doesn't matter from an expense perspective.
We can't absorb Westbrook without sending likely both J Rich and Doug. At that scenario there is no additional salary and we are still 7.2 million below salary floor.
$40M for a pick? Our situation isn’t a luxury tax one. Brooklyn is a repeat offender in the Golden State mold. They’re going to WANT someone to take Westbrook.
It’d be nice to get in on this deal if we are heavily compensated but would also be enjoyable to not cooperate and watch Kyrie sit out the rest of the season and watch both the Nets and Lakers flame out
My thought is that if Irving is going to torpedo the Nets season, then Durrant will likely want out too, so I think teams could consider their options and prioritize Durant instead. Just spitballing. Speculating further, it would be hilarious if OKC tried to make a move to get Durant back.
I wouldn’t mind seeing Durant go to one of these up and coming teams to finish his career out. Memphis or NO would be exciting landing spots for him.
Would you imagine? He’s be awesome at either
I’m sure the Nets would like to salvage a last chance at winning a le with KD by getting win now players back for Kyrie but I don’t see many teams giving up much as only win now team will be interested in KI.
If Kyrie is traded KD will want out.
Nets really need to tear this down. They have a few BAD contracts on their books in Joe Harris and Simmons.
I think they most likely move Kyrie for Russ and the Lakers two unprotected FRPs. Throw in a small contract to make the math work.
They’re screwed, tax wise, unless they get someone to eat Russ’s contract, like $35M. That alone might be worth one of those UFRPs.
If I'm Brooklyn, I try my best to turn Durant into some combination of Ingram, Daniels, and their best '23 and/or '24 picks (NO's or the Lakers').
http://www.espn.com/nba/tradeMachine?tradeId=2bhxuuyt
Nets outgoing: Irving to Lakers, Harris to Lakers
Nets incoming: Josh Richardson from Spurs, Doug McDermott from Spurs, Austin Reaves from Lakers, Pat Beverley from Lakers, SRP 2025 from Lakers
Lakers outgoing: Westbrick to Spurs, Reaves to Nets, FRP 27, FRP 29 (both unprotected), SRP 2025
Lakers incoming: Irving from Nets, Harris from Nets
Spurs outgoing: Josh Richardson to Nets, Doug McDermott to Nets
Spurs incoming: Westbrick, , FRP 27, 29 from Lakers
The Nets cut their luxury tax drastically, add two good shooters in Richardson & McDermott who can spread the floor for Simmons & Durant, one up-and-comer and decent role player in Reaves and a dependable defender in Pat Bev to mix it up in the playoffs this year. And they get a SRP too.
The Lakers get Irving and extend their contention for a bit with Mr Cancer in the mix and get rid of Westbrick. In Harris, they can unlock a good 3Pt shooter once he gets his post-long term injury rhythm back.
The Spurs get two unprotected FRPs for Richardson & McDermott and for carrying Westbrick's contract.
Who says no? I guess, the Lakers. But their hands might be tied if the Clippers get into the mix.
I think the concerns with the tear down is that Houston becomes the beneficiary of their picks. But if they’re able to get high value from KD that’ll help, which is why NOLA seems like a nice fit for BKN.
If they get Ingram, Dyson and Murphy/Jones plus some picks, that’s a great way to reboot. The two years of Simmons deal will go quickly.
If/when push comes to shove, the Trail Blazers make the most sense for Durant.
A sign and trade of Grant combined with either Simons or Sharpe, plus whatever other necessary salary picks/swaps.
I like that for both teams IF KD wants out…would be a fun trade.
Exactly. There is zero incentive to tear down because you don’t have your own picks. Also, why would you take WB when you can get better players like Doug/Josh/Collins/Tre, still not take on any salary and save a ton of money? It makes no sense to me to just take on WB for BKY but obviously that is possible if SA does not play ball or wont settle for a certain amount.
Now, if KD demands out? Sure, then you flip to only wanting picks to replace the ones you had already given up. But without having your own picks it makes tearing down a really bad option especially when you can hedge getting some useful players back and save money and still get a first too possibly (like my scenario)
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The Phoenix Suns are prepared to pursue Brooklyn Nets star Kevin Durant should he become available, league sources tell @NBAonTNT, @BleacherReport.
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I don't expect a trade until the last day of the deadline as all teams will hold out until the last day for the best possible trade for them.
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The Phoenix Suns are prepared to pursue Brooklyn Nets star Kevin Durant should he become available, league sources tell @NBAonTNT, @BleacherReport.
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