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We don't need this dude coming back and messing up our lottery odds. He needs to sit on that bench until next season.another guy who doesn't like Pop's methods
pop said back around all star break all along anyway so Dev is on his time frame still
We don't need this dude coming back and messing up our lottery odds. He needs to sit on that bench until next season.another guy who doesn't like Pop's methods
hahah he is probs just down on being injured. He’s getting a nice extension offer this summer regardlessanother guy who doesn't like Pop's methods
but I’m sure his camp wants him on the floor asap to stat pad for a bigger deal.
nah man he's the next Dejounte. He will ask for a trade soon and doesn't like Spurs "culture"
According to Hoopshype the deal is done.
Devin Anthony Vassell is a member of the next big 3; Keldon/Vassell/Wemby! Book it!nah man he's the next Dejounte. He will ask for a trade soon and doesn't like Spurs "culture"
Like clockwork.
Dammmmmm…. insert yellow M&M ROFL
As I said, like clockwork.
Alright... NOW I am interested in Wiseman, not because of Wiseman, but because it's worth $131M to GS to trade him. How many unprotected FRPs is $131M worth to the Warriors (maybe none... they might not give a ).
Spurs receive: James Wiseman, Johnathan Kuminga, 2025 unprotected FRP swap, 2026 unprotected FRP, 2027 unprotected FRP swap, 2028 unprotected FRP
Warriors receive: $110k
Let's do it.
I’m in.
The Warriors owe Memphis a 1st round pick that could settle in ‘24, ‘25 or ‘26, otherwise they are all clear. That ‘24 protection is only top 4, so it will probably settle then.
This is why we shouldn't 'pay' for Wiseman and why we should get paid to take him..
It’s been said that the Spurs want no part of Kuminga.
id definitley explore eating wiseman's contract tbh. 2023 offseason cap space is not really a concern imo
If you're going to dream, dream big.
Yes, we know. We all read if the first time LJ wrote it and the 10,000 times you've posted it since. They also don't want any part of Wiseman and the Warriors probably want no part in this trade. But this is my Spurs GM fan-fic, so I don't actually GAF.
TRE TO KUMINGA FOR THE ALLY OOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOP
This guy gets it.
Exactly, some people still don't seem to get it. Wiseman is a burden, not an asset. Any trade proposal that has us giving up anything for Wiseman beyond $110k or a top-55 protected SRP should be immediately disregarded. Likewise, any proposal that doesn't also have FRPs coming back.
Right, but until it’s settled, you can’t further trade or swap any of those picks. It won’t be settled by the trade deadline. ‘Probably’ doesn’t count. An example is Chicagos pick this year. It’s top four protected, and was expected to convey, as Chicago made the playoffs last year easily, and was expected to do the same this year. Fast forward 8 months, and Chicago has a decent chance to jump into the top 4 and keep the pick. It’s 8% now, but was 20% days ago, and could be again in a few days with the way the standings are bubbling up and down.
Last edited by exstatic; 02-07-2023 at 07:58 PM.
Why do you think Wiseman would have less value to GS than the Spurs? They need a good center as well, and they'd really like him to be a good investment. A player who's good versus a player who's bad on the same money should have dramatically different values. That's even more true given that Wiseman isn't on a $12M/1 deal. He's on a two-year deal. He has guaranteed money well beyond what he's shown to be worth. Dedmon's a lot better with option value. I don't really see a good argument for preferring Wiseman over Dewayne unless you believe in Wiseman. Like you can't just want to take a flyer. You have to think he's going to be a really good player. Otherwise it should be pretty easy to get a project big. The Spurs have a couple already.
the tax bill
Holy... It's pretty tasty that the GSW owner is paying through the nose for his failson's desire to pick Wiseman. Light years ahead, truly. Too bad they got a cheapo le out of everything last year.
Yes, very true. The Warriors do have their 1st round pick this year, currently at #17. I wonder what they think that’s worth.
Even with his option next year, I don’t assume the spurs made the Dedmon trade with the idea of keeping him unless Jakob is moved. Maybe that’s wrong, but I think he becomes a buyout guy the day after the deadline. We’ll see.
I disagree on the flier piece, especially if the cost is (projected) sub-MLE money; I absolutely think that’s what the small market spurs should be doing at this stage of their rebuild cycle, which is why I applauded the Zach Collins deal at the time it was made (and I still like it).
On “value,” it feels like GSW for first time in a while have different considerations to grapple with, which I think is reflected in the Meyers contract impasse (say nothing of the new Curry injury). That tax savings may be a real “value” in what’s looking like a down year.
Last, unless I’m missing something, if Wiseman flops next year the spurs arent obligated to make him RFA the season after next, no? And if he does flop he become the next 12M expiring to be leveraged this time next year. I support having different sized expiring contracts (5M Romeo; 9M Jakob; 12M Richardson) at any given time to help cobble trades together.
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