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Instead of viewing Wiseman as a young asset, we can just view him as a salary dump. Wiseman + one lightly protected FRP + one swap or a protected FRP for Jak and I'm in. If Wiseman turns it around, great, if not, who cares.
I recall he also had a lot to say about wanting to get drafted by the Spurs. Weird that we have no interest, apparently.
Instead of viewing Wiseman as a young asset, we can just view him as a salary dump. Wiseman + one lightly protected FRP + one swap or a protected FRP for Jak and I'm in. If Wiseman turns it around, great, if not, who cares.
I also think it’s bizarre. I’d happily do Josh and that ty CHA FRP for Kuminga.
Wiseman actually wasn’t awful his rookie year, but his development was derailed by missing all of last year. It’s tough enough finding a developmental curve on a le contender without missing a whole season. He’s worse this year than his rookie season.
Just my take, is that the most they can realistically get for Poeltl is 1 middling first and a young middling player. You might get two firsts but those will probably have heavy protections of some sort. Do the spurs really want that for one of their top players ?
Every player is worth a lot now (wink wink), but come the deadline the price comes down due to some team desperately wanting to make a deal. Opinions are all over the place on this subject but in less than 2 weeks, we'll know for sure. Stay tuned.
May have an impact on Jak both in FA if he stays + on trade deadline if this means Turner is off market
Here's how the money breaks down from Shams-
Myles Turner and Pacers reach agreement to keep Turner under contract through 2024-25 season, salaries as followed, per sources:
- $35 million this season ($18M salary plus $17M of Pacers’ salary space)
- $20.9M in 2023-24
- $19.9M in 2024-25
Total: 2 additional years, $58M.
Has to mean IND is not trading him - so Jak value in trade market just gets better. But this is a number that will be referenced by Jak in FA some too I am guessing. Not that he will get it
Does this really take Turner off the market, or does it now provide the acquiring team more security that he is under contract (or is there a recently signed restriction)? Pacers just using up their cap space that they had to anyway.
Seems odd that the Pacers would take themselves out of the trade market with so much time to go before the deadline.
But if it does take Turner off the market, and provide guidance for Jak's market value, that's awesome. Do we peg Jak slightly below Turner due to offensive skillset? $17-18MM/year for Jak?
I don’t see why the Pacers would give up an additional 17 million simply to trade him. The move to me looks like a heavily front loader deal to keep him affordable so they can be aggressive in adding help around him the next two years.
Think that takes Turner off the trade market unless they get blown away by an offer. Indy is ahead of schedule on their rebuild and he's young enough to fit their timeline.
People will still Jean on the extra 17 million upfront. But I don’t think it does much for Jaks value one way or another. It’s kinda right where he was pegged to begin with.
He's easily going to get his 20M.... some team might offer more at this point... I wouldn’t be surprised if the Turner extension doesn't go ahead and push someone to get this trade done quickly for Jak though..
One other thing...this reduces Indy's cap space this year, so they're out of the running for a Westbrook dump....that could be significant..
So he's getting roughly $30M per year he extended, yet still counting as $20M for each of the next 2 years... and apparently allows for him to be traded immediately... hmmm... i wonder if this speaks of Indy simply wanting to raise his trade value to get a much larger return in the short term.
Well... maybe they figure that it's money they'd have to spend anyways, and they'd get better returns by trading an extended Turner (as opposed to an expiring one) vs what they'd get by renting that cap space.
He's getting almost 30M per additional year, despite the weird structure. This doesn't drive Poeltl's expectations down by any means.
Still open for all your cap-dumping needs!
Turner can be traded. Hold Your horses. Value is just higher
So basically it costs Indy 20M per, because that money had to be redistributed regardless, and Turner gets 58M... he gets the money, they either keep him or up his trade value for less than they'd otherwise have to pay. This is too easy and smart not be illegal.
Can't be traded for six months after renegotiating
what are your thoughts on the what this does to the market from Spurs perspective: both Jak and being a team with cap space to absorb a Westbrook type easily
https://twitter.com/BobbyMarks42/sta...59327546523648
Here is a breakdown of the Myles Turner renegotiation. Because this was a renegotiation, Indiana was allowed to decrease the salary in the first year of the extension to 40%. Turner is still eligible to be traded by 2/9.
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