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    Anytime a journalist relies on secret sources (especially uncorroborated ones -- Sy Hersh is no longer subject to editorial/ins utional control) verification is a problem. The strong conclusory language of the article demands strong evidence, which is lacking here.

    That said, the inferences drawn against the USA and Norway are plausible. Who had the most to gain strategically from wrecking the pipelines? Who has materially benefited in the aftermath?

    Last June, the Navy divers, operating under the cover of a widely publicized mid-summer NATO exercise known as BALTOPS 22, planted the remotely triggered explosives that, three months later, destroyed three of the four Nord Stream pipelines, according to a source with direct knowledge of the operational planning.
    https://seymourhersh.substack.com/p/...he-nord-stream

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    cannot say I would be surprised

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    Shallow water, currents manageable.
    Lets go take a look.

    What team of international divers can "we" get together for evidence of C4 explosion.
    If Sy is wrong he has to pay for it. If correct, hero going on tour giving talks about more American fiddling.

    Absolutely plausible.
    And incredibly bold and risky maneuver while Western cooperation is necessary for trust while we have a war in Europe.

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    Makes zero ing sense-

    Ill wait for proof…

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    Hersh has gotten more gullible chasing the big story these days. Can't trust only him anymore.

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    Hersh has gotten more gullible chasing the big story these days. Can't trust only him anymore.
    my thoughts also…

    i see he reported and was correct on some important scandals…

    but those seem to be 50-60 years ago…

    nothing would shock me but it just completely makes zero sense for this govt even be invested in that can of worms?

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    It could have been Germans too, in order to wean off russian gas and not antagonize them.

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    It could have been Germans too, in order to wean off russian gas and not antagonize them.


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    Hmmm

    Russian state energy giant Gazprom is starting its own private security force, a move Ukraine fears will lead to a new Wagner-like mercenary army.

    https://news.yahoo.com/russian-state...-giant-gazprom

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    Hersh has gotten more gullible chasing the big story these days. Can't trust only him anymore.
    Sy Hersh bad now.

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    If the US did it, I'm actually onboard. That was the one big piece of leverage Russia had on Europe, so taking it away looks like the right decision in hindsight...

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    If the US did it, I'm actually onboard. That was the one big piece of leverage Russia had on Europe, so taking it away looks like the right decision in hindsight...
    Strategically risky, could alienate our EU allies and damage the effort to beat Putin. Trust arrives by foot and departs on horseback.

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    Whoopsie


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    The people that are the most outraged over this pipeline being blown up are:

    Cucker Tarlson
    Putin
    TSA
    Trump

    so kudos to whomever blew it up!

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    Old news.

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    Strategically risky, could alienate our EU allies and damage the effort to beat Putin. Trust arrives by foot and departs on horseback.
    There’s no time for hesitation when you have a deluded lunatic like Putler blackmailing the free world, tbh

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    Promise kept?



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    "feckless"

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    Anytime a journalist relies on secret sources (especially uncorroborated ones -- Sy Hersh is no longer subject to editorial/ins utional control) verification is a problem. The strong conclusory language of the article demands strong evidence, which is lacking here.

    That said, the inferences drawn against the USA and Norway are plausible. Who had the most to gain strategically from wrecking the pipelines? Who has materially benefited in the aftermath?

    https://seymourhersh.substack.com/p/...he-nord-stream
    Except Russia has a history of false flag attacks on its own pipelines. Murkier and murkier.

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    Except Russia has a history of false flag attacks on its own pipelines. Murkier and murkier.
    The pipeline would have destroyed 3 Russian ships and a couple tanks. Russia wouldn't have defeated it.

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    Except Russia has a history of false flag attacks on its own pipelines. Murkier and murkier.
    I don't disbelieve you, when has this happened before?

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    I don't disbelieve you, when has this happened before?
    going off of something I read a while back, will see if I can find it. time's up for ST for today though. busy day ahead.

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    Joe

    Hersch said this is the dubmest thing any president has done in years. That includes Trump




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