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    Yep. Fk cancer. Lost my sis to it, she had a 2 year old. She didnt drink or smoke so for the last 18 years it turned me into a heavy drinker. My mom then got it but she survived, but i believe the radiation and chemo sped along dementia…sux gotta keep truckin

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    Public education used to be better generations ago, but now it's in the toilet with all these ultra culturally left wing principals, superintendents, indoctrinated educators that went to today's public university system etc. that are extremely permissive and preach infinite chances and safety nets rather than accountability and law and order. From an early age these kids are taught to be dumb and that bad behavior and slacking is okay because there will be infinite excuses and chances made for them compared to past generations. In school suspension has become essentially a second recess. These kids either graduate or drop out of high school and become chronic shoplifters, looters, rioters, and career progressive policy sign holders in mobs as opposed to actual productive members of society.

    Defund public education. It was one purposeful but not for at least a generation.
    Its already defunded.

    You mean drop outs cant find a good job like plumbing, electrician, or tattoo artist?
    Private education in Texas is half scams. These private schoolers that enter good public schools and try to take tougher classes are way behind.
    They wont give the teachers any problems but the catching up is enormous if they try to enter good public schools in well to do socioeconomic areas.
    There are however some great private schools as well. But they are almost always real non profit run by really good people.

    This is what I gather in SA anyways.

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    Its already defunded.

    You mean drop outs cant find a good job like plumbing, electrician, or tattoo artist?
    Private education in Texas is half scams. These private schoolers that enter good public schools and try to take tougher classes are way behind.
    They wont give the teachers any problems but the catching up is enormous if they try to enter good public schools in well to do socioeconomic areas.
    There are however some great private schools as well. But they are almost always real non profit run by really good people.

    This is what I gather in SA anyways.
    It all depends on the private school. We sent my daughter to a very small (and relatively inexpensive) private school because the public schools in the area had a lot of issues (poor education, drugs, etc). When she was in 8th grade, we moved to a different county that had some tremendous private schools. But by that point, she didn't want to change schools because of her friends. So we just let her stay at the private school. However, if she had gone to the public alternative, she could have almost knocked out a year of college credits.

    But for the really great private schools in our area, you're looking at around $30,000 plus per year. The most widely recognized one has tuition of $23,000 for Kindergarten. But yeah...the education is fantastic.

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    It all depends on the private school. We sent my daughter to a very small (and relatively inexpensive) private school because the public schools in the area had a lot of issues (poor education, drugs, etc). When she was in 8th grade, we moved to a different county that had some tremendous private schools. But by that point, she didn't want to change schools because of her friends. So we just let her stay at the private school. However, if she had gone to the public alternative, she could have almost knocked out a year of college credits.

    But for the really great private schools in our area, you're looking at around $30,000 plus per year. The most widely recognized one has tuition of $23,000 for Kindergarten. But yeah...the education is fantastic.
    All depends on the public school, too.

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    All depends on the public school, too.
    100%. When we moved, the public school had classes or off campus classes for tons of different vocations. All my kid has was two AP classes.
    But the district we moved away from didn't have really. We pretty much acknowledged that sending her to the cheap private school was just paying to keep her out of potentially bad situations.

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    FUUUCCCCKKKKK cancer.

    Cancer is what brought us out to California. My father in law died of Mesothelioma on my birthday of 2010, tumultuous to say the least. In the next 3 years, my mother in law would develop uterine cancer, thankfully they caught it in time and she was well for awhile before she had another tumor found in her stomach, she recouped well. My mother and Uncle would develop bone cancer both and die within 60 days of each other in 2013.

    I wish you and your mom the best.

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    All depends on the public school, too.
    The difference between a school like Brandeis and Lanier is enormous.
    NISD v. SASD

    Look at what section of the city they are in.
    Then it becomes very obvious.

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    FUUUCCCCKKKKK cancer.

    Cancer is what brought us out to California. My father in law died of Mesothelioma on my birthday of 2010, tumultuous to say the least. In the next 3 years, my mother in law would develop uterine cancer, thankfully they caught it in time and she was well for awhile before she had another tumor found in her stomach, she recouped well. My mother and Uncle would develop bone cancer both and die within 60 days of each other in 2013.

    I wish you and your mom the best.
    Jeeezzz...

    I assume your mother and the Uncle you mention was her brother.
    Bone cancer at the same time? Did it start in some other organ first... or Lymph system?

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    Surgery next Friday for my Mother. Chip installed this Monday.

    Met with the Kaiser surgeon. Very young - late 20s. I could tell dorky Asian. The way we interacted. I trust him. Explained the procedure & options on a white board. Seems typical procedure. We feel confident.

    Edit: early on the Hospital shows Surgeon name & picture. I researched for my folks.
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    Its already defunded.

    You mean drop outs cant find a good job like plumbing, electrician, or tattoo artist?
    Private education in Texas is half scams. These private schoolers that enter good public schools and try to take tougher classes are way behind.
    They wont give the teachers any problems but the catching up is enormous if they try to enter good public schools in well to do socioeconomic areas.
    There are however some great private schools as well. But they are almost always real non profit run by really good people.

    This is what I gather in SA anyways.
    There's such a thing as a "good" public school in SA?

    I myself went to public high schools across SA including Northside and South San... the system is atrocious. They just pass anyone... academic safety nets galore... bad behavior punishment is a turnstile / revolving door... They have done away with discipline and law and order and adopted restorative and permissive justice, and that was over 10 years ago.

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    The difference between a school like Brandeis and Lanier is enormous.
    NISD v. SASD

    Look at what section of the city they are in.
    Then it becomes very obvious.
    I went to 2 NISD high schools. They were laughably bad.

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    It all depends on the private school. We sent my daughter to a very small (and relatively inexpensive) private school because the public schools in the area had a lot of issues (poor education, drugs, etc). When she was in 8th grade, we moved to a different county that had some tremendous private schools. But by that point, she didn't want to change schools because of her friends. So we just let her stay at the private school. However, if she had gone to the public alternative, she could have almost knocked out a year of college credits.

    But for the really great private schools in our area, you're looking at around $30,000 plus per year. The most widely recognized one has tuition of $23,000 for Kindergarten. But yeah...the education is fantastic.
    Yeah... that's the problem. Expensive tuition, but at least you are guaranteed to not be a granddaddy before graduation night.

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    There's such a thing as a "good" public school in SA?

    I myself went to public high schools across SA including Northside and South San... the system is atrocious. They just pass anyone... academic safety nets galore... bad behavior punishment is a turnstile / revolving door... They have done away with discipline and law and order and adopted restorative and permissive justice, and that was over 10 years ago.
    Yes there absolutely are very good public schools in NISD.
    And I also went to a public school in NISD. Well prepared for college. So did a number of my friends who are now teachers. But clearly not happy with Greg Abbots TEA.

    What schools did you go to? And were you in remedial classes that took on refugees from Somalia? Because Public schools in Texas MUST take remedial education on. So you also want PUBLIC money that REQUIRES taking on remedial learners and give it to private schools who can pick and choose students? Not with my tax money you donít. This is what the red team is trying to accomplish in Texas. Also, many private schools donít require any sort of knowledge in a subject to teach it, some are extremely ty AND THEY TAKE YOUR MONEY and move on. Think Trump U on a supposedly higher level but extraordinarily SUPERFICIAL. ďOh look, the name Trump is on the label, I will learn to be a cheating business man.Ē And you donít even accomplish this level.

    what kind of classes were you in, I think they failed at some sort of socialization?
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    Yeah... that's the problem. Expensive tuition, but at least you are guaranteed to not be a granddaddy before graduation night.
    BS. Some are very good and some absolutely ty.

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    Yes there absolutely are very good public schools in NISD.
    And I also went to a public school in NISD. Well prepared for college. So did a number of my friends who are now teachers. But clearly not happy with Greg Abbots TEA.

    Also, many private schools donít require any sort of knowledge in a subject to teach it, some are extremely ty AND THEY TAKE YOUR MONEY and move on.
    Yep. I went to a small private school and they had coaches teaching classes. The football coach also taught geometry and it was like he was going through the book for the first time just like we were. Also, at my kid's school, they'd have teachers that had kids going to the school so their tuition was free. As soon as that kid was done with school, the parent quit. There was little continuity. I can think of only one great teacher she had between 6th grade and graduating. Everything before then was fine but it's not hard to teach Kindergarten through 5th.

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    Yeah... that's the problem. Expensive tuition, but at least you are guaranteed to not be a granddaddy before graduation night.
    BS. Some are very good and some absolutely ty.
    If you're paying $23,000 for Kindergarten, I'm pretty sure your kids are at a top level private school. I doubt there are many ty teachers at those schools. Assuming a kid goes there from K-12, that's over $300,000. If they don't get a college scholarship, that's a lot to pay to keep them out of the . The upside is that they have a higher likely hood of getting a college scholarship. Also, the connections they might have made. IDK.

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    If you're paying $23,000 for Kindergarten, I'm pretty sure your kids are at a top level private school. I doubt there are many ty teachers at those schools. Assuming a kid goes there from K-12, that's over $300,000. If they don't get a college scholarship, that's a lot to pay to keep them out of the . The upside is that they have a higher likely hood of getting a college scholarship. Also, the connections they might have made. IDK.
    Problem

    Some private schools dont have enough teachers qualified to teach all the AP classes. Even some very good ones because they are smaller schools. In SA anyway.
    This can save a tremendous number of college hours and lighten the load considerably during freshman year. Scholarships are absolutely available at big public schools but, not enough people take advantage of them. They dont know about them. A private school with a very good counselor can get kids, almost force them to write many "essays" for scholarships. Also if you want to do sports on the highest level in Texas, you go public.

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    Some private schools dont have enough teachers qualified to teach all the AP classes. Even some very good ones because they are smaller schools. In SA anyway.
    This can save a tremendous number of college hours and lighten the load considerably during freshman year. Scholarships are absolutely available at big public schools but, not enough people take advantage of them. They dont know about them. A private school with a very good counselor can get kids, almost force them to write many "essays" for scholarships. Also if you want to do sports on the highest level in Texas, you go public.
    I agree that many private schools don't have qualified teachers. In our area, the ones that charge the crazy tuition do have the qualified teachers. For the cheaper private schools, they don't. I have no doubt my kid got a worse education at her private school than she would have at the public high school that she could have gone to. The other side of that is that she was able to play sports, be a lead in plays/musicals, know everyone in her class and become friends with almost all of them, and lessen the chances she'd be exposed to the that can get you in trouble. On the other hand, I went to a private high school that had crappy teachers and more going on than the public schools. Out of a graduating class of 32, four have already passed away due to DUI crashes and drugs. So I don't know the answer to any of this. If you have enough money, you can move into a good/great school district. But you're talking about much higher living expenses. Especially home costs and property taxes. As to the sports, if you're good enough, you can usually get a scholarship to a top private high school and eventually scholarship to college. I'm not sure public/private makes much of a difference for the top level athlete.

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    Some private schools dont have enough teachers qualified to teach all the AP classes. Even some very good ones because they are smaller schools. In SA anyway.
    This can save a tremendous number of college hours and lighten the load considerably during freshman year. Scholarships are absolutely available at big public schools but, not enough people take advantage of them. They dont know about them. A private school with a very good counselor can get kids, almost force them to write many "essays" for scholarships. Also if you want to do sports on the highest level in Texas, you go public.
    My daughter goes to McCallum in Austin, the "Fine Arts Academy" She has 12 hours of AP credit already and two exams to go, and got a lot of scholarship offers for someone not in the top 5% of her class. She is going to UNM in the fall and is under out of state tuition with her scholarship money for nursing. It is definitely one of the top schools in town, but they still have issues retaining teachers, and the AC barely works in the whole building. Even they could use way more funding instead of giving property tax breaks to companies like Apple, Tesla, Samsung, 3m and the like.

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    Yes there absolutely are very good public schools in NISD.
    And I also went to a public school in NISD. Well prepared for college. So did a number of my friends who are now teachers. But clearly not happy with Greg Abbots TEA.

    What schools did you go to? And were you in remedial classes that took on refugees from Somalia? Because Public schools in Texas MUST take remedial education on. So you also want PUBLIC money that REQUIRES taking on remedial learners and give it to private schools who can pick and choose students? Not with my tax money you donít. This is what the red team is trying to accomplish in Texas. Also, many private schools donít require any sort of knowledge in a subject to teach it, some are extremely ty AND THEY TAKE YOUR MONEY and move on. Think Trump U on a supposedly higher level but extraordinarily SUPERFICIAL. ďOh look, the name Trump is on the label, I will learn to be a cheating business man.Ē And you donít even accomplish this level.

    what kind of classes were you in, I think they failed at some sort of socialization?
    Holmes and Taft HSes, spanning pretty much exactly the first half of the Obama administration. Ghetto AF and even though I was in mostly pre AP, AP and dual credit type classes, even half of those kids were stoners. Tons of teen pregnancies everywhere you looked. Over 90% Mexican and more blacks than whites. Everyone not in pre AP was a dropout, stoner, druggy ghetto type and in and out of alternative school, and could barely write a complete sentence and couldn't spell basic words better than an average third grader. A lot of them had to take the TAKS tests a second or third time in order to pass into the next grade.


    I was only prepared for college because I was proactive and prepared myself.... only about 2-3 of the classes I had in HS (AP/DC US History, AP statistics and AP music theory to an extent) were actually enjoyable to me and helped prepare me for the academic rigor of college, which was surprisingly easy imo. High school was WAAAAAAAAAAY harder than college IMO, because it's 8am to 4:05pm Monday to Friday plus homework, rather than 15-18 hours per week plus homework. College was a fairly easy 4.0 for me, except the very last class of undergrad (business policy) that I made an "A" (901/1000 points) by the skin of my teeth because that class is notoriously a difficult "A" or "B" even and the teacher was a green teaching fellow from India. Every other class I made a minimum score of 94.5% and many college classes I ended up well over 100% with extra credit.

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    My daughter goes to McCallum in Austin, the "Fine Arts Academy" She has 12 hours of AP credit already and two exams to go, and got a lot of scholarship offers for someone not in the top 5% of her class. She is going to UNM in the fall and is under out of state tuition with her scholarship money for nursing. It is definitely one of the top schools in town, but they still have issues retaining teachers, and the AC barely works in the whole building. Even they could use way more funding instead of giving property tax breaks to companies like Apple, Tesla, Samsung, 3m and the like.
    Hopefully she doesn't end up majoring in cooking meth, tbh. Albuquerque has a reputation.

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    not happy with Greg Abbots TEA.

    What schools did you go to? And were you in remedial classes that took on refugees from Somalia? Because Public schools in Texas MUST take remedial education on. So you also want PUBLIC money that REQUIRES taking on remedial learners and give it to private schools who can pick and choose students? Not with my tax money you don’t. This is what the red team is trying to accomplish in Texas. Also, many private schools don’t require any sort of knowledge in a subject to teach it, some are extremely ty AND THEY TAKE YOUR MONEY and move on. Think Trump U on a supposedly higher level but extraordinarily SUPERFICIAL. “Oh look, the name Trump is on the label, I will learn to be a cheating business man.”
    As far as the remedial goes, I think the Bush era NCLB acts should be repealed and those kids should be sent to trade school or military school. If they suck at reading and math maybe at least they can be productive members of our society somehow.

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    Public school does exactly what it sets out to do, teaches kids to pass a standardized test. Beyond that, it really depends on where you live and how involved the student/parents are. If you live in a fairly affluent area, the public schools should have plenty of extracurricular opportunities. That, and learning how to interact and function in a large group of your peers is really what's important IMO.

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