Yeah he's impossible to convict. He's so good at whining and playing victim that he'll get at least one juror even in NYC who will ignore evidence and refuse to convict. I agree with jury nullification and the ability for a jury to be able to tell prosecutors to off for trying to enforce bad laws but this is one of the prices you gotta pay for that right.
Let him take flight and never come back to the US.
That would be fine. And if a particular state took him in, not gonna be Florida.
I think the red team members with the most power would love him gone as well.
Fly away lying piece of I say... We deal with you later...
Imo the Georgia voting law trial should have come first if we want him convicted and out of the race.
I also dont think its such a bad thing for the blue team if Trump stays in the race.
Finally a half decent post from your dumb ass nig
Props
Agree
Stronger case but way less of a chance of conviction in GA.
Fk you.
I take it all back.
You are a fkn lunatic.
In the end hes an ex president
He wont do any time
He might get stopped from candidacy in 2024 thats all
Anyone who believes enything else is a dumb ass re
Its a case that is much more serious in nature.
I think more Americans understand this.
The stormy thing is just another asshat business thing rich people are allowed to do for Republican voters.
indict him on ANY case where the evidence warrants it
it is irrelevant which one goes first, which is more serious or whatever
and all this hand-wringing and doubting and trying to have it a certain way is absolutely pointless
indict his ass EVERY TIME the evidence warrants it in whichever investigation is ready to prosecute
eventually the long arm of the law will get him out of our lives for good
I disagree.
All the dominos fall if the Georgia case rocks his world imo.
Jan 6 gets easier.
They come at him if he takes another breath, new trials are added.
States fight over who gets to keep him in a hole.
Americans are not very bright, we elected this fk stick. They need to be given a more straightforward crime. Fkn with the election.
If there could be some way to bring up his egregious acts on the phone to Ukraine again it would be lovely.
Last edited by pgardn; 04-01-2023 at 09:19 PM.
Doesn't matter, prosecution won't be able to strike every Trump from a jury pool in GA. 0.00000000000000% chance of a conviction there.
Will it have to be 12-0?
It's either 12-0 or mistrial
Wow.
Only 1 Trump needed.
EVen beyond that, buy / threaten a juror.
Ya i don't think Dunceold is getting convicted ever. System too corrupt.
You are overthinking it
Crimes were committed. Justice is slow as molasses. Trump plays the delay game in every investigation.
Just keep working on the cases, develop all the evidence, get your ducks in a row and when ready-
prosecute him.
Trump committed all these crimes - no one is even disputing that- because no one can actually - with a STRAIGHT FACE-
say that trump is innocent.
He will be prosecuted on ALL HIS Crimes.
Some will lead to convictions. Some might not if prosecutors make a mistake or if trumps attorneys have a good day and a favorable ruling or two
but in the end - he will be convicted on most of his crimes and nothing anyone says or does will stop justice from being served.
The more people try and strategize and overthink what should and should not happen is just a waste of energy IMO and this plays right into the - “going after a former president - you need to not fail..blah blah..it HAS TO be a perfect shot blah blah…this is unprecedented blah blah …bs narrative.”
He is a criminal and should be treated the same as any other criminal and NO - I dont buy that bs they are selling about him being “not just any criminal defendant”
that piece of
nah
one prosecution might fail…one trumper might force a mistrial-
so what?
move on
NEXT prosecution
eventually
ONE of his crimes will result in a conviction
he should have NEVER agreed to have russia install him as president- as he could have continued to flaunt the rule of law with impunity until he died a free man
but he ed up and ran for office
he is ed
System would be way more corrupt without jury nullification IMO. It's a check and a balance the people have against bull laws.
I cant speak to the mind of every individual Trump but...
They seem to do much better in groupthink. At least the ones I have met.
On their own they can be led imo.
here is another reason why every case is important;
For example- say trump gets convicted for the “smaller” ny case and it is a low level felony (tax evasion, campaign violation, etc) - and trump s will be howling that it was a “process crime” “political blah blah”
and trump attorneys will argue that trump is a person who has never even legally had a parking ticket blah blah
the court/judge/jury in this case will more than likely opt for a “no prison” sentence, maybe a 2 year probation etc,
then trump gets indicted on other cases- and in each one - when the case is at the end - unless outright acquitted- the prosecution will point to the ny case and make the argument that he is NOW a convicted felon who was given a light sentence and told to obey the law
now with the NEW conviction and the next and the next
each judge/jury will find it harder and harder and harder to NOT have the traitor imprisoned eventually
there are some things you can absolutely guarantee with trump without exception:
1) he will lie 24/7
2) he will commit crimes
3) he will never stop doing #1 and #2 above
the above is a fair point.
Imprisonment is the ultimate goal imo.
But I want him taken down first, imprisonment is the icing. I want him to become the felon that he is. Imprisonment after that would be nice but not necessary if some other things happened.
Just making him stay in his home, whatever. Not able to send out social info as he is a danger to start riots. He leaves the country. I personally dont need retribution on him, I want him gone from the idiots who idolize him.
... really I just want him gone. His lying and committing crimes is dangerous because of his position. He is an ex president. We elected him. Let him go to Saudi Arabia or something and die there, not here. No martyrdom within this country would be nice.
"Over 4 million raised in the first 24 hours"
Well, if only ^
I can agree with most of that but therein lies a problem-
if you do NOT imprison him (prison would absolutely restrict his social media access and influence)
and to merely ban him from holding office , you just KNOW idiots like ducks,darrin,TSA, cosmic cowboy, et al
will absolutely continue their assault on our democracy and elevate the convicted traitor felon to god status again and they will absolutely continue their cult worship and be the constant threat to our democracy
ONLY imprisoning him will finally show the cultists that their hero sits behind bars and will die in prison and they can follow in his footsteps- or
maybe choose to wake from their cult trance
How much did you give?
"Over 4 million raised in the first 24 hours"
"Over 4 million raised in the first 24 hours"
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