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    Look up your talking points and tell me when the Democrats actually threatened to default.

    I'll wait.
    I just took Joe at his word. Deficit reduction is really important to him. I'm waiting to see his counter proposal. You know there will be one.

    and LOL @ you and YOUR talking points.

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    I just took Joe at his word. Deficit reduction is really important to him.

    and LOL @ you and YOUR talking points.
    If y'all are so serious about deficit reduction, why did y'all sit in your hands when Trump was running it up?

    Oh, that's right, you got a tax cut, ~ $2t worth, without any offsetting budget cuts.

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    Seems like that would have been a good moment to negotiate deficit reduction, but for some reason, that wasn't a Republican priority.

    Tax cuts aren't deficit neutral, btw.

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    If y'all are so serious about deficit reduction, why did y'all sit in your hands when Trump was running it up?

    Oh, that's right, you got a tax cut, ~ $2t worth, without any offsetting budget cuts.
    more whataboutism. Pot calling kettle black. I'm not in ing congress.

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    more whataboutism. Pot calling kettle black. I'm not in ing congress.
    tax cuts are related to fiscal balance.neither of those is related to the debt ceiling. debt ceiling "negotiation" is a sort of whataboutism all by itself.

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    I just took Joe at his word. Deficit reduction is really important to him. I'm waiting to see his counter proposal. You know there will be one.

    and LOL @ you and YOUR talking points.
    CC folds.

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    LOL Chump is hallucinating. Biden will negotiate.

    And chump FACTS are not talking points. Boden voted against raising the debt limit in protest of deficits.

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    LOL Chump is hallucinating. Biden will negotiate.

    And chump FACTS are not talking points. Boden voted against raising the debt limit in protest of deficits.
    of course it's a talking point.

    It was published explicitly for people like you to talk about in places like this so you can distract form your disaster of a political party.

    You ran away from the facts when you were asked about them.

    You folded and now you're pissed I'm pointing it out.

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    of course it's a talking point.

    It was published explicitly for people like you to talk about in places like this so you can distract form your disaster of a political party.

    You ran away from the facts when you were asked about them.

    You folded and now you're pissed I'm pointing it out.


    Chump claiming all FACTS that don't fit his position are "talking points".

    now claiming a "win"

    what a ing tool.

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    Chump claiming all FACTS that don't fit his position are "talking points".

    now claiming a "win"

    what a ing tool.
    OK, where did you get that quote?

    I notice you didn't provide a link.

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    OK, where did you get that quote?

    I notice you didn't provide a link.
    LOL goal post move. Are you saying it's not true?

    you are such a ing tool.

    Again, FACTS are not partisan. They simply are facts. If you would like more history on Joes votes against raising the debt ceiling here is a good link from newsweek.

    https://www.newsweek.com/senator-joe...gotten-1635504
    Last edited by CosmicCowboy; 05-02-2023 at 01:13 PM.

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    LOL goal post move. Are you saying it's not true?

    you are such a ing tool.

    Again, FACTS are not partisan. They simply are facts. If you would like more history on Joes votes against raising the debt ceiling here is a good link from newsweek.

    https://www.newsweek.com/senator-joe...gotten-1635504
    That article doesn't contain the quote you posted.

    Where did you get the quote?

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    That article doesn't contain the quote you posted.

    Where did you get the quote?
    From Joe Biden. Sorry the FACT is inconvenient to your talking points.

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    From Joe Biden. Sorry the FACT is inconvenient to your talking points.
    No. What you posted wasn't a Joe Biden quote:

    On March 16, 2006, Senate Republicans voted to raise the debt ceiling, with Senate Democrats largely voting against the statutory limit of the country’s debt.

    Then-Sen. Biden voted in lock step with Senate Democrats against this bill, which would raise the debt ceiling from $8.184 trillion to $8.965 trillion.

    During his Senate floor speech explaining his vote against the debt ceiling increase, Biden lashed into then-President Bush, claiming Bush did not do enough to balance the budget or pay down the debt.


    Where did you get this?

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    Are you trying to say it's not true?

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    Are you trying to say it's not true?
    I'm asking you where you got the quote.

    It's a simple question.

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    Not the first time it's been used and won't be the last.

    Your boy Joe voted against raising the debt ceiling in 2006.
    Who gives a ? It was a meaningless vote because the Republicans controlled all three branches at the time. Your side is threatening default and actually can force one.

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    Are you libs actually worried President Biden* will fail to get the debt ceiling raised?

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    LOL hearing about fiscal responsibility from a GOP voter
    LOL you thinking you know how I always vote. Typically, it's for the side I'm less tired of. Right now, I'm tired of everyone and it looks like the choice will be between Biden and Trump again. If the two parties run those two candidates against each other then you truly know these elections aren't about what's best for the country anymore.

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    I believe that particular clip was from Breitbart after I googled "Biden voted against increasing debt ceiling'.

    Too bad the truth doesn't fit your narrative

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    I believe that particular clip was from Breitbart after I googled "Biden voted against increasing debt ceiling'.

    Too bad the truth doesn't fit your narrative
    LOL trying to equate a symbolic meaningless vote vs one to actually send the country into default.

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    LOL trying to equate a symbolic meaningless vote vs one to actually send the country into default.
    So Biden didn't really believe that deficits were a problem when the total national debt was less than 9 trillion? Was he lying?

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    So Biden didn't really believe that deficits were a problem when the total national debt was less than 9 trillion? Was he lying?
    Never ending bad faith arguments from Republicans like CC.

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    Never ending bad faith arguments from Republicans like CC.
    Inconvenient facts?

    His own words are "bad faith arguments"?

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    I have no doubt that neither Biden or McCarthy want to default on our debt.

    Unfortunately if Biden doesn't throw McCarthy a bone or two he will have zero chance of getting enough votes to pass the debt ceiling.

    That is an unfortunate truth.

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