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    The UN reported 10,000 persons arbitrarily detained between mid-March and late-June 2011;[35]: 5  a year later that number had more than doubled, though the true number of detainees may have been far higher.[38]: 11 [40]: 12  At the notorious Seidnaya jail, north of Damascus, 2,500 military officers and lesser ranks were being held after they disobeyed orders or attempted desertion.[43] Human Rights Watch do ented more than 20 different methods of torture used against detainees, including: prolonged and severe beatings, often with objects such as batons and wires; painful stress positions; electrocution; burning with car battery acid; sexual assault; pulling out fingernails; mock execution; and sexual violence.[40]: 18–19  Many were held in disgusting and cruelly overcrowded conditions; many who needed medical assistance were denied it, and some consequently died.[40]: 14–17 

    Human Rights Watch accused the government and Shabiha of using civilians as human shields when they advanced on opposition-held areas.[44] A UN report confirmed this, saying soldiers had used children as young as eight, detaining and killing children afterwards. The UN added the Syrian Government as one of the worst offenders on its annual "list of shame".[45] In May 2012, Al Arabiya aired leaked footage of a man being tortured in a government detention centre in Kafranbel.[46]

    In response to these violations, the UN Human Rights Council passed a condemnatory resolution. It also demanded that Syria cooperate with a UN investigation into the abuses, release all political prisoners, and allow independent monitors to visit detention facilities.[47]

    The charity Save the Children conducted interviews in refugee camps with Syrian civilians who had fled the fighting, and released a report in September 2012 containing many accounts of detention, torture and summary execution, as well as other incidents such as the use of civilians as human shields, allegedly including tying children onto advancing tanks so that rebel forces would not fire upon them.[48]


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    A 2016 Human Rights Watch (HRW) report stated that pro-Assad forces deliberately carried out indiscriminate attacks against civilian population through aerial bombing. Between February 2014 and January 2015, Human Rights Watch reports that "at least 450 major damage sites" in Syria "showed damage consistent with barrel bomb detonations". A local Syrian group estimates that in the first year after UN resolution 2139 was passed, aerial barrel bomb attacks killed 6,163 civilians in Syria, including 1,892 children. HRW report stated that the Assad government deployed toxic chemicals in numerous barrel bomb attacks between March to May 2015.[63] Pro-Assad forces also imposed forced starvation on civilian populations by besieging numerous residential areas.[63] According to a UN investigation, in September 2016 the Syrian air force dropped barrel bombs from helicopters on a United Nations humanitarian aid convoy at Urum al-Kubra headed to Aleppo. The bombs were followed by rocket fire from jets, and strafing of survivors with machine guns, killing 14 aid workers. In a report issued 1 March 2017, the United Nations found the attack was "meticulously planned" and "ruthlessly carried out"—and because it was deliberate, a war crime.[65][66]

    According to three eminent international lawyers in the 2014 Syrian detainee report[67] Syrian government officials could face war crimes charges in the light of a huge cache of evidence smuggled out of the country showing the "systematic killing" of about 11,000 detainees. Most of the victims were young men and many corpses were emaciated, bloodstained and bore signs of torture. Some had no eyes; others showed signs of strangulation or electrocution. Experts say this evidence is more detailed and on a far larger scale than anything else that had yet emerged from the 34-month crisis.[68][69]

    According to a report by Amnesty International, published in November 2015, the Syrian government had forcibly disappeared more than 65,000 people since the beginning of the Syrian Civil War.[70] According to a report in May 2016 by the Syrian Observatory for Human Rights, at least 60,000 people have been killed through torture or died from dire humanitarian conditions in Syrian government jails since March 2011.[71]

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    The Ba'athist Syrian government has deployed chemical warfare as a systematic military strategy in the Syrian civil war, and is estimated to have committed over 300 chemical attacks, targeting civilian populations throughout the course of the conflict.[78][79] As of 2023, at least nine separate investigations conducted by both the UN and the OPCW have concluded that the Assad government carried out several chemical weapons attacks.[80] Investigation conducted by the GPPi research ins ute do ented 336 confirmed attacks involving chemical weapons in Syria between 23 December 2012 and 18 January 2019. The study attributed 98% of the total verified chemical attacks to the Syrian Arab Armed Forces. Approximately 90% of all attacks had occurred after the Ghouta chemical attack in August 2013.[81][82]

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    Physician Annie Sparrows believes an explanation for the killing is that the Syrian government viewed doctors as dangerous, seeing their ability to heal rebel fighters and civilians in rebel-held areas as a "weapon" against the government. Over the 2.5 years, doctors, nurses, dentists, and pharmacists who provide medical care to civilians in contested areas have been arrested and detained; paramedics have been tortured and used as human shields, ambulances have been targeted by snipers and missiles; medical facilities have been destroyed; the pharmaceutical industry devastated. In 2011, there were more than 30,000 doctors in Syria. More than 16,000 doctors fled, and many of those left were in hiding. More than ninety were assassinated for doing their jobs and at least 36 paramedics, in uniform on authorized missions, were killed by Syrian military snipers or shot dead at checkpoints.[101]

    As of August 2016, more than 200 medical facilities had been attacked by the government and its allies since the start of the war, and according to The Economist, "Experts reckon that no previous war has witnessed such widespread, systematic targeting of hospitals and medical workers."[102]

    The 2019–2020 UN HRC report for the first time directly accused Russian Air Force of "indiscriminate attacks in civilian areas" in connection to bombing of refugee shelter in Haas and market place in Ma’arrat al-Nu’man in summer 2019, and described them as "amounting to the war crime".[103]

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    ISIS, Osama.. they all look like innocent choirboys next to Assad. There is a reason that almost no Syrians were willing to fight for him.

    Peace might not come to Syria and maybe it goes back to fractured civil war, but the people of Syria have showed they want to end the brutality and get rid of their dictator.

    And that gives hope for better future. Every fallen dictator is worth celebrating.

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    https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/War_cr...rian_civil_war

    ISIS, Osama.. they all look like innocent choirboys next to Assad. There is a reason that almost no Syrians were willing to fight for him.

    Peace might not come to Syria and maybe it goes back to fractured civil war, but the people of Syria have showed they want to end the brutality and get rid of their dictator.

    And that gives hope for better future. Every fallen dictator is worth celebrating.
    Sure, but it's far from clear Syrians are out of the frying pan. I don't think HTS are choirboys.

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    hater strikes again

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    Dumb move by the terrorists and their sponsors (Israel and USA and Turkey)

    They will get obliterated

    "L"

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    lolololol

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    Sure, but it's far from clear Syrians are out of the frying pan. I don't think HTS are choirboys.
    There's zero expectations this is going to be the end of any show. Odds say this is the start of a different one.

    However, there are geopolitical implications given the region and who the chess players are.

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    There's zero expectations this is going to be the end of any show. Odds say this is the start of a different one.

    However, there are geopolitical implications given the region and who the chess players are.
    And we should leave them all to it. Leave them alonePERIOD

    Trump will start drilling again on the 20th of next month and we'll be set for the next quarter of a million years, at least.

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    "Lion of Syria"


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    Sure, but it's far from clear Syrians are out of the frying pan. I don't think HTS are choirboys.
    Seems pretty clear they're out of the frying pan and into the fire

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    Former Syrian President Bashar al-Assad has landed in Moscow after fleeing from opposition rebels who closed in on Damascus today, according to Russia 24.

    The state-owned TV channel cited anonymous sources in its report, adding that Assad has requested asylum in Russia. Two other Russian news outlets, TASS and Interfax, also reported that Assad arrived in Moscow with his family, citing Kremlin sources.

    TASS and RIA Novosti, another Russian state news agency, reported that Assad’s request for asylum was granted for “humanitarian reasons.”
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    And we should leave them all to it. Leave them alonePERIOD

    Trump will start drilling again on the 20th of next month and we'll be set for the next quarter of a million years, at least.
    I was one that said a long time ago they should cordon that entire area and turn it into a giant parking lot, but I know it doesn't work like that.

    As long as religious fanaticism is involved, there won't be a resolution in sight.

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    Seems pretty clear they're out of the frying pan and into the fire
    Maybe. A bunch of outside countries will probably have a stake in the new government.

    Except your Russia.

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    Syrians I know. All excited, planning trips.

    I warned. The new guys might turn.

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    At best the conflict isn't over. Counter coming.

    Syrians are good people. Desperate to return. But I think this is just the beginning

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    Maybe. A bunch of outside countries will probably have a stake in the new government.

    Except your Russia.
    lol you think Russia and Iran are done with Syria

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    lol you think Russia and Iran are done with Syria
    Iran is in a better position. Your Russia was all in on your Assad.

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    Most Syrians here in Berlin accepted this is reality.

    I fell for a beauty. Trying to show her look forward like I did. If you make it back to your homeland, then it was made to be.

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    I was one that said a long time ago they should cordon that entire area and turn it into a giant parking lot, but I know it doesn't work like that.

    As long as religious fanaticism is involved, there won't be a resolution in sight.
    And that's just fine. But leave them to themselves. No trading. No imports. No exports. No aid. No money, no troops, no weapons, no advice, no advisers on the ground, or, otherwise. No opine whatsoever. Nothing; pull the Embassy and come home and stay herePERIOD

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    -Taras Bulba- is now playing on Prime. Saw it way back in '63 and 60+ years later last night. A lot of Polish, Ukraine, and Russian references, Frosty. You ever see it?

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    And that's just fine. But leave them to themselves. No trading. No imports. No exports. No aid. No money, no troops, no weapons, no advice, no advisers on the ground, or, otherwise. No opine whatsoever. Nothing; pull the Embassy and come home and stay herePERIOD
    They won't leave Israel alone, which means we're going to be there.

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