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    If they want to build a public transport from the Alamodome to the new arena, an aerial tramway would make sense to cross the interstate. Modern aerial tramway have the same capacity per hour than light rail and have been used lately for urban transportation.

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    If they want to build a public transport from the Alamodome to the new arena, an aerial tramway would make sense to cross the interstate. Modern aerial tramway have the same capacity per hour than light rail and have been used lately for urban transportation.
    Oh my dear Bruno… this is Texas I’m afraid. People will happily cut their noses off to spite their faces when it comes to these things (that and the Southwest Airlines lobby).

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    Oh my dear Bruno… this is Texas I’m afraid. People will happily cut their noses off to spite their faces when it comes to these things (that and the Southwest Airlines lobby).
    Yep, as an European, it's so weird that a city as big as San Antonio has only buses as public transportation.

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    SA has a small town at ude it has been said, often in ways that are detrimental. As for the tunnel thing, I heard it would be for more than just transportation between the sites, but could have small retail/restaurants. I don't know any details. Maybe to use the Alamo Dome parking lot and then get people back west of 281 to the arena.

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    If they want to build a public transport from the Alamodome to the new arena, an aerial tramway would make sense to cross the interstate. Modern aerial tramway have the same capacity per hour than light rail and have been used lately for urban transportation.
    Even if San Antonio could fund it the state of Texas would just pass a law to make it illegal like they did when San Antonio tried to do a public ISP to compete with AT&T and Spectrum.

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    Yep, as an European, it's so weird that a city as big as San Antonio has only buses as public transportation.
    As a European picture Texas as a state run by people like Orban and then it won't seem so weird.

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    I took public transportation in Switzerland and that was transcendental. We're in the stone age over here in the US and it's amazing how much pushback you get to improve public transportation or add high-speed rail.

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    Dont think underground would work. Soil shifts to much. There is a reason most houses do not have basements in San Antonio. Dont like the Idea of a monorail between the 2 but if they had it as 2 stops on a bigger network that would be good.

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    $3B-$4B is a -ton of money tbh. This is going to be a huge undertaking. They’re obviously planning on building an entirely new entertainment district downtown with that kind of money. New arena, new ballpark, shops and restaurants, an extension of the River Walk, etc. Probably even a Texas Live, as the amateur sketch shows. An underground tunnel would make a lot of sense, though not sure I buy it tbh. Either way, this going to take a while and the taxpayer is going to get ed hard. The finished product should be pretty dope though and infinitely better than playing on the -hole west side that we do right now.


    I realize this is just a sketch - but that looks like an MLB-sized stadium for a city that doesn't have an MLB team or seemingly any prospect to get one. What ever happened with Las Vegas and the A's? Did that get blown up? Could something be cooking there?

    Also, who did Pizza Hut and Dunkin Donuts blow in order to be incorporated into this sketch?

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    I took public transportation in Switzerland and that was transcendental. We're in the stone age over here in the US and it's amazing how much pushback you get to improve public transportation or add high-speed rail.
    Switzerland is run by responsible adults; the US is run by banks, pharmaceutical, and oil companies.

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    Yep, as an European, it's so weird that a city as big as San Antonio has only buses as public transportation.
    like everything in america, capital is prioritized over taking care of the population. Highway Lobbies basically force people to buy cars by stunting alternate forms of transit.

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    I realize this is just a sketch - but that looks like an MLB-sized stadium for a city that doesn't have an MLB team or seemingly any prospect to get one. What ever happened with Las Vegas and the A's? Did that get blown up? Could something be cooking there?

    Also, who did Pizza Hut and Dunkin Donuts blow in order to be incorporated into this sketch?
    I'm sure it was just a quick cut and paste job. It would be a good idea to put the new Missions stadium in the footprint of an MLB venue as they are fairly easy to expand, though I imagine Round Rock would have the inside track if there was any expansion happening.

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    I'm sure it was just a quick cut and paste job. It would be a good idea to put the new Missions stadium in the footprint of an MLB venue as they are fairly easy to expand, though I imagine Round Rock would have the inside track if there was any expansion happening.
    Just for a quick reference point on minor league stadiums, for those curious. I was around for the opening of the Red Sox AAA affiliate, the Worcester Red Sox (WooSox), new ball park, Polar Park in 2021. Very nice facility, solid premier club, nice suites, seats 9500. Estimated cost of around $160MM ($41MM for the land, $118MM for the facility, no doubt built with expensive New England union labor).



    Something like that would be a major upgrade over the Wolff.

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    We all know that McCombs got Mayor Cisneros to push for a new stadium in expectation that SA would be awarded a NFL expansion team, which never happened. But curious why you think McCombs ed the city on the Alamodome?
    Exactly as you mentioned. San Antonio was NEVER going to get an expansion team, and Red knew it. He nevertheless got a stadium built and got lifetime concession rights for himself. It was and is a terrible basketball venue and was too small for an NFL team almost immediately. He took advantage of how bad Hemisfair was and how desperate the city was for something better. The Spurs ended up partnering with the rodeo to build an arena in BFE.

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    I think in addition to the concessions part with the Alamo Dome, there was talk of issues with the box seats, which seems to be where teams make a disproportionate amount of their money.

    I think the fans just want a basketball experience. Putting blame on Red makes sense in many ways, but it's not like Holt isn't trying to secure ridiculously advantageous deals with whatever arena gets built.

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    Our boy got himself an olympic medal at age 20, while being the most impactful player on his team

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    I took public transportation in Switzerland and that was transcendental. We're in the stone age over here in the US and it's amazing how much pushback you get to improve public transportation or add high-speed rail.
    The propaganda is ing powerful here, for whatever reason, and somehow many folks (especially white people in poor financial situations) believe worshiping and imbodying the propaganda as one's own personality is some kind of duty. Suggest other countries maybe do some things differently and better than we do them and you are a terrorist.

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    I took public transportation in Switzerland and that was transcendental. We're in the stone age over here in the US and it's amazing how much pushback you get to improve public transportation or add high-speed rail.
    switzerland is the size of vermont.........it would rank 40th state size...........usa is too big to have any decent public transportation..........

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    switzerland is the size of vermont.........it would rank 40th state size...........usa is too big to have any decent public transportation..........
    We've been brainwashed that public transportation is for poor people and part of the American dream is to own a huge car and be in debt for a ty piece of machinery that depreciates immediately after it leaves the lot.

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    switzerland is the size of vermont.........it would rank 40th state size...........usa is too big to have any decent public transportation..........
    We already did. GM and the government it owned killed it.

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    We already did. GM and the government it owned killed it.
    Yup. Literally bribed city officials to tear up the electric tram/trolly tracks in every city.

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    I realize this is just a sketch - but that looks like an MLB-sized stadium for a city that doesn't have an MLB team or seemingly any prospect to get one. What ever happened with Las Vegas and the A's? Did that get blown up? Could something be cooking there?
    Fischer still scheming.

    Vegas stadium authority docs reveal Fisher to get A’s stadium money from PSLs and, uh, somewhere – Field of Schemes

    Pizza. I don't know about Pizza Hut but in Detroit virtually all the stadiums are owned by either Little Caesars or Dominos.

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    switzerland is the size of vermont.........it would rank 40th state size...........usa is too big to have any decent public transportation..........
    nobody says we need a national subway system that connects the entire country together

    NYC has a great public transit system. no, its not as clean or pretty as some of the european counterparts, but its quite effective, and i've always enjoyed trips to NYC in large part due to the system.

    then you have some areas with good enough transit like SF, Chicago, Philadelphia. and then it kind of falls off quick. los angeles has kind of tried, but that city is just way too massive, and its basically impossible because of the urban planning/zoning that has built the city the way it has. sure, there is a half decent subway system downtown, but in most cases you need a car to get to the subway

    back when i was in law school and was doing an externship working as a law clerk for a superior court judge, i had to drive about 4 miles to get to a bus stop, which would then connect me to the subway station, which would then eventually get me within walking distance of the courthouse. so public transit to get me most of the way there... great. but needing a car to reach public transit defeats the purpose.

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    Downtown (besides where the Riley's Believe it Or Not walkway) was pretty dead. Closed up shops. A stadium would do wonders.

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