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Yeah, Masai screwed the pooch on that one, for sure.
No way the Raptors are tanking. You don't sign Poeltl to the contract they did to tank. For all the praise that Ujiri gets he sure has stunk it up the past couple of years. I can see not thinking FVV was the guy to lead your team, but how do you not trade him at the deadline last year? Anyway with Poeltl, PS and OG they may not make the playoffs, but no way they are a bottom 5 team. So unless they win the lottery this pick conveys this year.
Yeah, Masai screwed the pooch on that one, for sure.
Dude the whole story here is that Raptors have failed to pick a path and it’s costing them. They’ve lost players for nothing. They stand to lose more players for nothing next summer. Their GM has never tried to intentionally suck. They’re stuck and doing nothing about it.
So they’re middling and indecision should help the Spurs.
Not just FVV but also Lowery before him. Will give him a pass on Nephew though.
If we get 2 picks in the draft first
1a - PF/C Alexandre Sarr
1b - PG Garway Dual
I love Sarr. Him and Wemby would make for a great duo, but Dual is more of a shooting guard. His court awareness is definitely lacking.
Hopefully the national media's usual pushing of the Craptors agenda claiming they're the looming boogeyman in the Lillard sweepstakes is just their typical propaganda and not true.
A 3 teamer with the Hawks, who'd receive Siakam (and send out some combination of Mills, Fernando and G. Matthews to make the math work), with the Trail Blazers receiving Hunter, Griffin, Boucher + draft capital from both and them receiving Lillard, could be an option.
Interestingly just as 2nd round picks become more valuable because of the new CBA next draft 8 teams don’t have a SRP and 3 teams-GS, NJ and Toronto (assuming their FRP conveys) don’t have any picks at all.
Latest espn mock draft has 6 PGs in the top17:
https://www.espn.com/nba/insider/ins...tion-no-1-pick
#2: Isaiah Collier
#7: Stephon Castle
#10: D.J. Wagner
#14: Tyrese Proctor
#16: Jared McCain
#17: Elmarko Jackson
Of course, I know it's still very early some of theses players will drop/rise/disappear and new ones will appear. Saying that, it's still better to have a PGs heavy draft as starting point than the opposite.
This past draft was pretty good with PGs (ultimately we'll see) and other than Scoot I believe none of the lottery points were ranked early in the season at all. It'll be interesting to see what happens this year.
For reference, the 2023 mock draft made at about the same time:
https://www.espn.com/nba/insider/ins...coot-henderson
I can't see it, but I don't think Bufkin, Black or even Wallace were considered that high. Keyonte George might have been and Nick Smith (who I don't regard as a PG) was very high.
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2023 espn mock draft made on oct 4 2022
1. Victor Wembanyama
2. Scoot Henderson
3. Amen Thompson
4. Nick Smith
5. Cameron Whitmore
6. Dereck Lively
7. Keyonte George
8. Ausar Thompson
9. Dillon Mitc
10. Kel'el Ware
11.Dariq Whitehead
12. Terquavion Smith
13. Cason Wallace
14. Jarace Walker
15. Anthony Black
16. Rayan Rupert
17. Julian Phillips
18. Gradey
19. Brandon Miller
20. GG Jackson
21. Leonard Miller
22. Adem Bona
23. Kyle Filipowski
24. Sidy Cissoko
25. Nikola Durisic
26. Jordan Walsh
27. Chris Livingston
28. J.J. Starling
29.Marcus Sasser
30. Amari Bailey
The 2024 version:
1. Ron Holland | G League Ignite | SF | Age: 18.2
2. Isaiah Collier | USC | PG | Age: 18.9
3. Matas Buzelis | G League Ignite | SF | Age: 18.9
4. Alex Sarr | Perth Wildcats | PF/C | Age: 18.4
5. Justin Edwards | Kentucky | SG/SF | Age: 19.7
6. Donovan Clingan | UConn | C | Age: 19.5
7. Stephon Castle | UConn | PG/SG | Age: 18.9
8. Izan Almansa | G League Ignite | PF/C | Age: 18.2
9. Kyle Filipowski | Duke | PF/C | Age: 19.8
10. D.J. Wagner | Kentucky | PG/SG | Age: 18.4
11. Zaccharie Risacher | JL Bourg | SF | Age: 18.4
12. Kel'el Ware | Indiana | C | Age: 19.4
13. Aday Mara | UCLA | C | Age: 18.4
14. Tyrese Proctor | Duke | PG | Age: 19.4
15. Ja'Kobe Walter | Baylor | SG | Age: 18.7
16. Jared McCain | Duke | PG | Age: 19.6
17. Elmarko Jackson | Kansas | PG/SG | Age: 19.4
18. Tidjane Salaun | Cholet | PF | Age: 18.1
19. Cody Williams | Colorado | SF | Age: 18.8
20. Terrance Arceneaux | Houston | SG/SF | Age: 19.8
21. Ryan Dunn | Virginia | SF | Age: 20.7
22. Baba Miller | Florida St. | PF | Age: 19.6
23. Bobi Klintman | Cairns Taipans | SF/PF | Age: 20.5
24. Freddie Dilione | Tennessee | PG | Age: 19.4
25. Juan Nunez | Ratiopharm Ulm | PG | Age: 19.3
26. Nikola Topic | Mega MIS | PG | Age: 18.1
27. Melvin Ajinca | Saint Quentin | SG/SF | Age: 19.2
28. Dillon Mitc | Texas | SF/PF | Age: 19.9
29. AJ Johnson | Illawarra Hawks | SG | Age: 18.8
30. Ugonna Onyenso | Kentucky | C | Age: 19.0
Interesting that Sidy was #24. Also, wow, Brandon Miller really jumped.
Like he was shot out of a gun…
Proctor is the only one I've seen a good bit of, and i like his game alot.
Collier and Wagner seem the most interesting. The other name on that long list is Ka’el Ware. Interesting big. What happened to that guy. He was kinda boom or bust.
Transferred to Indiana.
So Bruno and all,
When do you think we'll see another late pick become a bona fide All Star for multiple years?
GNob
Parker
Greak Freak
Kwa Leonard
Jokic
Kel'el Ware was called out by his former Oregon coach for his lackadaisical play and that got him in the dog house, he then transferred to Indiana. He's a talented guy, but I'm skeptical of talented guys who just don't care, I don't think that's easy to shrug off.
Jimmy Butler, 30th after Spurs 29th pick CoJo. 35th pick Draymond
Butler 30 yes a couple years before Greek Freak.
Apemond Green is a media creation, not a legit star.
For the moment and for the little i saw collier and castle ( really like him ) are the two i like.
That and he had motor issues which definitely wont get you picked up at least in the first round
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