I'm a-ok with abortions and transitioning as long as those doing either end their lineage altogether.
As usual you are too ing stupid to get the point. Did you even read the article? Legitimate transition establishments go through a rigorous screening process to determine if the person is stable and a legitimate candidate for transition. PP policy is if they ask, then prescribe them the drugs. In and out in 30 minutes.
My mistake though. I should have known trying to have a serious discussion with Blake involved was a waste of time.
But BlaKKKe isn't the least concerned with the fact that autism these days is closely linked with transgender bs. I wonder why that is?
Either way, end the gene pool for all the weirdos in this world! BlaKKKe I applaud you finally coming out as trans but unfortunately you already spread your seed. Lets hope your little girl learns something of value from that Catholic school because she hasn't learned jack from your ass.
lol, CC ignoring this post is very on brand.
“It’s really, really distressing to read sometimes, where you have people who have very strong gender dysphoria and want to transition, and their therapist says, ‘Well, we need to first cure your autism before we transition,’ which is wrong on all levels,” Warrier says. “We want this study to really demonstrate that both of these things can co-occur, and just because these things co-occur does not mean that one should be denied.”
Directly s on your implication, doesn't it?
Wasn't "my" theory
You asked for a link about autism and gender transition
It was pretty easy
I'm not disputing the study. Thank you for linking it.
I said nothing about a theory in my question to you. RIF.
I said that quote s on your implication that an autistic person shouldn't be allowed to make the same decisions a non-autistic person is allowed to make.
Does that quote not on your implication?
Let me show you Chump
https://letmegooglethat.com/?q=trans...nked+to+autism
I'm not disputing the study. Thank you for linking it.
I said nothing about a theory in my question to you. RIF.
I said that quote s on your implication that an autistic person shouldn't be allowed to make the same decisions a non-autistic person is allowed to make.
Does that quote not on your implication?
Fred has a history of developmental issues. He was diagnosed with autism—technically ADHD with autistic traits—at age four, struggled with depression and anxiety as he got older, and was expelled from three different special-needs schools due to behavioral problems, stemming in part from an impulse control disorder. He is an 18-year-old high school student in New Jersey and lives with his parents, who asked the Washington Free Beacon to withhold his real name.
Like many people on the autism spectrum, Fred cycles through obsessions and extreme views. He was part of an alt-right group chat as recently as last year, his parents said, but apostatized suddenly and now considers himself far left.
Still, Fred has a few interests that have remained constant throughout his life, all fairly typical for a teenage boy: guns, power tools, and metalworking. That made it all the more shocking when, in December 2022, at 17 years old, he announced he was a transgender woman.
The revelation came a few months after Fred’s best friend, who also has autism, began identifying as transgender. Concerned that this was another phase, but open to the possibility that it wasn’t, Fred’s parents tried to enroll their son, whom they were now calling by a female name at home, in the Gender and Autism Program at Children’s National Hospital, the only gender clinic in the country specializing in autistic youth. Fred was determined to take hormones, they told the clinic, which is known for its lengthy assessments. Before he did, they wanted to be sure his dysphoria wasn’t transient or peer-driven.
The clinic informed them in March that it had a waitlist of about a year. And Fred, who would be turning 18 in two months, wasn’t willing to wait.
In late July, while his parents were out of town and after he had come of age, Fred went to Planned Parenthood, which prescribes hormones to any legal adult without a letter from a therapist or a formal diagnosis of gender dysphoria. The only requirement is a brief consultation, usually with a nurse prac ioner, about the drugs’ effects, which range from mood swings and male pattern baldness to permanent infertility.
How brief? Fred arrived at his local clinic, on North Fullerton Ave. in Montclair, New Jersey, at around 11:00 a.m., according to phone tracking data his parents used to monitor his whereabouts. By 11:39, they received a text message from CVS: Fred’s estrogen prescription was on its way. Instead of a months-long evaluation by expert psychiatrists, a nurse prac ioner had, in little over 30 minutes, prescribed their special-needs son a powerful drug without their knowledge or consent.
"It’s criminal what Planned Parenthoods all over the country are doing," Fred’s mother, a New Jersey pediatrician, said. "And most people have no idea this is happening."
Fred’s story—corroborated through nursing and medical board complaints, locational data, prescriptions, text messages, emails, and other do ents reviewed by the Free Beacon—is a microcosm of how the nation’s largest abortion provider is eroding the already thin guardrails on gender medicine in America. As waitlists swell at clinics like Children’s National, and as concern mounts about the perils of rushed transition, many young people are using Planned Parenthood to skip the line and cir vent the safeguards, making it much more difficult to gatekeep what was once a tightly regulated treatment.
That dynamic has sparked criticism of the organization from an unlikely source: the liberal psychologist who helped bring pediatric gender medicine to the United States.
"I have always been a very strong supporter of Planned Parenthood and am pro-choice," said Laura Edwards-Leeper, who co-founded the nation’s first pediatric gender clinic, at Boston Children’s Hospital, in 2007. "But they have taken on something that they are not equipped to handle." The lack of gatekeeping is so bad, she added, that some of her patients received hormones from Planned Parenthood before coming to her for an assessment.
Others, like Erica Anderson, a former president of the US Professional Association for Transgender Health, say patients they’ve sought to delay from transitioning have simply turned to Planned Parenthood. "I’ve had patients desperate to get hormones where I’ve been the voice of caution," said Anderson, who is transgender herself. "In some cases, they say, ‘I’ll just go to Planned Parenthood when I’m 18.’ Usually I can dissuade them but sometimes I can’t."
Planned Parenthood is one of the largest providers of cross-sex hormones in the United States, and one of the fastest growing. Affiliates in the greater Portland area saw a nearly 400 percent increase in "gender-affirming care visits" between 2021 and 2022, according to their annual reports, while those in Ohio saw a 544 percent increase over the same period. Hormones now appear to be in higher demand than abortion at some branches: A Planned Parenthood in Knoxville, Tenn., told NPR that nearly a fifth of its patients sought hormone therapy in 2021, whereas abortion makes up just 3 percent of Planned Parenthood’s services nationally.
This growth has come as pediatric gender clinics, which used to wait months before prescribing hormones, are becoming more laissez faire themselves. Some now prescribe hormones on the first visit, a Reuters investigation found last year, while others say ballooning caseloads have made it harder to conduct the kind of in-depth assessments once standard in the field.
But with Planned Parenthood a constant temptation for older teens, even the most conservative clinics have an incentive to reduce gatekeeping if they don’t want to lose patients. The result, Anderson said, is a race to the bottom that pulls all providers, no matter their philosophy, toward the informed consent model adopted by Planned Parenthood, which doles out life-altering drugs to almost anyone who requests them. And that model has alarmed even the liberal pioneers of gender medicine, who say that some 18-year-olds—especially those with special needs—cannot meaningfully consent to hormones without extensive counseling.
"There are 15-year-olds I work with who are much more mature than average and can make these kinds of decisions," said Edwards-Leeper, who, along with Anderson, has attacked GOP efforts to ban hormone therapy for minors. "But there are also 20-year-olds who are struggling in various ways that make them less able to give informed consent."
These doctors argue that Planned Parenthood, which relies heavily on nurse prac ioners and employs few psychiatrists, is ill-equipped to handle complex cases like Fred’s. Its clinicians are not trained to assess patients’ "developmental trajectory," Anderson said, including the role social media or childhood trauma may be playing in their distress. Nor are they trained to consider the impact of autism, which often co-occurs with gender dysphoria and—according to multiple sets of clinical guidelines—warrants a more cautious approach to hormone therapy.
"Because it is often harder for an adolescent with [autism] to comprehend the long-term risks and implications of gender-related medical interventions," guidelines published in the Journal of Clinical Child & Adolescent Psychiatry state, "consenting for treatment may be more complex in this population."
The guidelines, developed by proponents of hormone therapy who work with autistic youth, add that a "black-and-white" mindset can lead some on the spectrum to assume, mistakenly, that "gender nonconforming interests" imply a need for medical transition.
Even the World Professional Association of Transgender Health (WPATH), whose standards of care are among the most aggressive and controversial in the field, says "it is critical to differentiate gender incongruence" from autistic "obsessions" and "rigid thinking." Though the group does recommend an informed consent standard for people over 18, it also states that its guidelines for minors—which call for "comprehensive" evaluations by experts on autism and other disorders—are "often relevant" to young adults.
"Some young adults are developmentally more like adolescents," Edwards-Leeper, who helped write the WPATH guidelines for minors, said. "Planned Parenthood really isn’t following the standard of care if they don’t take that into account."
Fred’s parents made a similar argument in a complaint they filed with New Jersey’s nursing and medical boards in July. The complaint, a copy of which was reviewed by the Free Beacon, said that Planned Parenthood violated the standards of care by prescribing Fred estrogen without a thorough psychiatric assessment, and that his autistic traits had inhibited his capacity to consent. It also questioned whether 30 minutes was enough time for anyone to think through the implications of a permanent loss of fertility.
"The New Jersey State Medical Board has an obligation to protect children and young adults, especially those with special needs," the complaint reads. "This type of shoddy (and irreversible) medical practice is a threat to all of them."
Planned Parenthood did not respond to multiple requests for comment.
Even for people without special needs, Edwards-Leeper said, 18 is a young age to remove all safeguards on gender care. The brain does not finish developing until at least 25, she noted, with the prefrontal cortex—which is responsible for long-term planning and decision-making—taking the longest to mature.
"The 18-25 range has been recognized as a unique developmental period in psychology," Edwards-Leeper said, adding that she tried, but failed, to get WPATH to draft separate standards of care for this age group. "But in the gender field, we have chosen to draw a clear line at 18."
The costs of that clear line are already piling up. At least two high-profile detransitioners, Cat Cattinson and Helena Kirschner, received testosterone from Planned Parenthood after a 30-minute appointment, which, in Cattinson’s case, took place over the phone. Kirschner stopped taking testosterone once her mental health deteriorated; Cattinson, a singer, stopped after it permanently destroyed her singing voice.
Though Planned Parenthood does warn patients about the effects of hormone therapy, those warnings are not standardized across its numerous state affiliates, which means patients in one region might get very different information from those in another. Planned Parenthoods in Virginia and some parts of California warn that testosterone can cause vaginal atrophy, for example. But branches in Michigan, Central and Western New York, Greater Washington and North Idaho, Southeastern Pennsylvania, and the Great Plains region do not, according to resources posted on their websites.
"That’s crazy," Edwards-Leeper said. "Vaginal atrophy should always be discussed. If they’re not including that on their list, that’s a problem."
A few branches, such as California Central Coast, do not even list increased libido as an effect of testosterone.
The lack of standardization extends to lab work—used to determine what dosing regimen will be safe for a given individual—which varies by clinic and in some cases does not include a blood draw. Hormone therapy can affect kidney function, potassium levels, and red blood cell counts, according to Planned Parenthood of Michigan, where bloodwork is required, so people with higher baselines may need lower doses to avoid blood clots and other conditions.
Planned Parenthood’s national office "hasn’t exerted any influence to make things uniform," Anderson said. "I don’t think they have a grip on the fundamental difference between hormone therapy and reproductive health care."
I'll quote this from your link again. Take a breath and stop being so emotional.
“It’s really, really distressing to read sometimes, where you have people who have very strong gender dysphoria and want to transition, and their therapist says, ‘Well, we need to first cure your autism before we transition,’ which is wrong on all levels,” Warrier says. “We want this study to really demonstrate that both of these things can co-occur, and just because these things co-occur does not mean that one should be denied.”
Directly s on your implication that an autistic person shouldn't be allowed to make the same decisions a non-autistic person is allowed to make., doesn't it?
No it doesn't. I never said autistic people should be banned for transitioning. That was your strawman.
I said the drugs shouldn't be dispensed on a whim, and yes, therapy should be part of that regimen to determine suitability.
Others, like Erica Anderson, a former president of the US Professional Association for Transgender Health, say patients they’ve sought to delay from transitioning have simply turned to Planned Parenthood. "I’ve had patients desperate to get hormones where I’ve been the voice of caution," said Anderson, who is transgender herself. "In some cases, they say, ‘I’ll just go to Planned Parenthood when I’m 18.’ Usually I can dissuade them but sometimes I can’t."
It was your implication.
If you believe autism has nothing to do with your opinion, why did you post an entire anecdote featuring an autistic person?
I mean WTF else is one supposed to take from this? You made this specifically about an autistic 18 year old.
What about the autism makes it especially egregious to you?
Funny how this always turns out. I thought it was an interesting article and shared it. I honestly had no idea Planned Parenthood had gone into the transgender business. Then automatically Whinehole, Random Guy, Chump, Spurminator etc, want to jump in and go on the attack. Then even the stupid ones like Blake pile on.
Now you want to shut down discussion of the interesting article you posted and wanted to discuss on a discussion board because you did and said questionable things.
Funny how this always turns out.
It was a good example why Planned Parenthood shouldn't be prescribing hormone therapy like it was aspirin, which you and the gang wanted to argue against.
Why does autism make the case more special to you?
You can't claim it doesn't. Don't make me quote you again. You know you posted it.
LOL Nono's solution to these rats (Chump, FruityBumpkins, Ef-PEDO, MultiPerv, and others) is downright amazing!
Glad I could start the convo over trans bs being linked to autism. Also glad I don't see Chump's bs posts at all; they don't even show up on screen whatsoever.
It's been their same game plan for yrs now. Revenge of the Nerds or better yet Revenge of the Trans. I wouldn't doubt those dudes are more female than most females with the amount of estrogen running through their veins.
LOL Nono's solution to these rats (Chump, FruityBumpkins, Ef-PEDO, MultiPerv, and others) is downright amazing!
Glad I could start the convo over trans bs being linked to autism. Also glad I don't see Chump's bs posts at all; they don't even show up on screen whatsoever.
What a scared moron.
No one gives a about you Chump and most definitely not me. I'm sure you sent some msg about reading your nonsense but I'm not and never wanted to to begin with. Years ago I put you on ignore because you're just a weirdly obsessed dip , took you off ignore recently just to prove you're still the dip you've always been, and now using Nono's solution to silence you and the other obsessed weirdo gays. Sorry but I'm not sorry and I hope you cry about it because it sure seems like your boyfriends are crying about it themselves. Eat and die Chump.
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