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was going to put the obligatory "nobody does" in the comment knowing that was coming in response....
jokic has gotten 22 of the easiest points largely thanks to chet. its beyond what you would expect from an all defense caliber center.
Nobody does... Ironically Chet is more of a Duncan and more spursy in terms of play and at ude, He's all about fundamentals, quietly putting big number with low key at ude. Wemby is more about flashy plays and flexing.
was going to put the obligatory "nobody does" in the comment knowing that was coming in response....
jokic has gotten 22 of the easiest points largely thanks to chet. its beyond what you would expect from an all defense caliber center.
currently watching the OKC game and must agree ... Chet shows very little emotion and does his job very quietly
Media has telegraphed since the Spurs won the lottery that they're looking to give it to Holmgren, despite the logic (better team, streamlined role should equate to greater efficiency) being the exact opposite of what usually wins it, including last season.
Seriously? Jokic outweighs Holmgren by about 75 pounds. He has no chance to defend him in the post. His defense is more about weak side rim protection and potentially p-n-r than post up.
OKC fans have talked him up as a DPOY guy and they refuse to pair him with an actual center is my point lol
He’s played two games, and in the one he didn’t commit dumb fouls to be chained to the bench, he played 31 minutes and scored 20+.
I think if they're close tie goes to Wemby because the media loves his flashy dunks and blocks and they're the voters. Really weird to be on the other side of that equation after how much the media ignored Tim and hyped guys like Kobe and TMac much more.
Rather have Wemby by far. Spurs need some flash in their players.
B-R/Stathead WS (alas Raptor is no more), so early curve is steep. Several WNBA players are listed as same last named NBA rookies.
01 Chet Holmgren
02 Cason Wallace
03 Derek Lively II
04 Sasha Venzenkov
05 Ausar Thompson
06 Brian Miller not Britany
07 Gradey
08 Jordan Hawkins
09 Kevonte George
10 Anthony Black
11 Marcus Sasser
12 Julian Strather
13 Kobe Brown
14 Jalen Pickett
15 Jaime Jacquez Jr.
16 Craig Porter Jr.
17 Hunter Tyson
18 Trayce Jackson-Davis
19 Taylor Hendricks
20 Filip Petrusev
21 Colby Jones
22 Jordan Miller
23 Nick Smith Jr.
24 Maxwell Lewis
25 Julian Phillips
26 Jett not Jennifer Howard
27 Jermaine Samuels
28 Collin Gillespie
29 Mouhamed Gueye
30 E.J. Liddell
31 Andre not Angela Jackson
32 Kris Murray
33 Leonard Miller
34 Jordan Ford
35 Ben Sheppard
36 Kobe Bufkin
37 Emoni Bates
38 Toumani Carrara
39 Rayan Ruper
40 Brice Senasabaugh
41 Vasilije Micic
42 Jarace not Jasmine Walker
43 Amen not Amanda Thompson
44 Bilal Coulibaly
45 Victor Wembanyama
46 Cam Whitmore
47 Scoot Henderson
Chet with another solid outing tonight. 14/4/3/2/4 on just 5 FGA. Have a feeling Wemby might have the better raw stats that people generally look at (ppg/rpg) but Chet is going to be tough compe ion, especially if OKC is a solid playoff team.
Stathead WS, after Suns game 31 October 2023, name mislinks to WNBA players fixed.
Positive players
01) Chet Holmgren NC
02) Cason Wallace NC
03) Dereck Lively II NC
04) Brandon Miller +2
05) Ausar Thompson NC
06) Sasha Vezenkov -2
07) Marcus Sasser +4
08) Kobe Brown +5
09) Gradey -2
10) Jordan Hawkins -2
11) Tracy Jackson-Davis +7
12) Anthony Black -2
13) Keyonte George -4
0.0, AKA replacement players
14) Julian Strawther -2
15) Jaime Jacques Jr. NC
16) Jordan Miller +6
17) Jalen Pickett -3
18) Jett Howard +8 2 pt, 1 rebound, in 3 minutes, amidst replacement level others.
19) Hunter Tyson -2
20) Taylor Hendricks -1
21) Filip Petrusev -1
22) Colby Jones -1
23) Brandin Podziemski NEW
24) Maxwell Lewis NC
25) Nick Smith Jr. -2
26) Gregory Jackson II NEW
27) Julian Phillips -2
28) Jermaine Samuels -1
29) Collin Gillespies -1
30) Kris Murray +2
31) Mouhamed Guaye -2
32) Toumani Camara +6
33) Emoni Bates +4
34) Andre Jackson Jr. -3
35) E.J. Liddell -5
36) Leonard Miller -3
37) Ben Sheppard -2
38) Jordan Ford -4
39) Rayan Rupert NC
40) Keyonte Johnson NEW
41) Brice Sensabaugh -1
42) Kobe Bufkin -6
Below replacement level players
43) Craig Porter Jr. -27 22 minutes, 10 pts, 4 rebounds, 2 assists, 1 block, 3 turnovers, 3 PF, -9 +/-. Surprised this kind of drop, but from just postive, to just negative, with 16 nothings in between.
44) Vasilije Mcic -3
45) Jarace Walker -3
46) Kaiser Gates NEW
47) Amen Thompson -4
48) Victor Wembanyama -3
49) Cam Whitmore -3
50) Bilal Coulibaly -6
51) Scoot Henderson -4
Last edited by Drom John; 11-01-2023 at 12:10 PM.
If Pop keeps:
-Playing without a PG that can help Wemby.
-Playing him out of position.
-Micromanaging his minutes with wacky rotations.
He's gonna cost Wemby RoY. I just hope it doesn't end up turning into another franchise player that wants to GTFO, tbh.
was saying in the offseason that Chet has an easier path to efficient productivity than Wemby since he has a very clear role on the team. he's asked to defend the paint and deter shots on one end, and being asked to hit open 3's and convert dunks on the other end. he came into this season a much better 3 point shooter than victor, and a more sound/disciplined paint protector. also by playing center, he's in a better position to pile on rebounds
wemby has a more diverse offensive role, but chet being able to specialize helps him quite a bit
where i was dead wrong was that i thought Chet was a better perimeter defender than wemby at this point
Wemby is ROY as of now and he's still getting better. The only thing keeping him from the award is injury tbh.
wemby gotta rebound a lil better,And stop turning the ball over....Has a good chance to be roy
Wembanyama is second in the league in turnovers, behind Cade Cunningham. Fouls are a bit high.
Otherwise, Victor takes a Wembanyama Eurostep to the positive side of the ledger.
Scoot had some big red flags coming out of his second season with G League Ignite, namely that his impact stats didn't improve at all between years 1 and 2, which is extraordinarily rare for an elite player at that age. They actually got a bit worse. A very few draft analysts have stuck to this concern, but for most his occasional athletic highlight reel showing is enough to keep them convinced that he'll be an impactful star. I still think Brandon Miller was the better choice.
I would say that Holgrem is ahead as of now. Stats are similar but way more efficient than Wemby
It's easy to be efficient when you're the third option.
I know it's only four games in, but Holmgren is shooting 60+% from the three and doesn't have the high turnovers Wemby does, so he's clearly in the lead for ROY out of the gate IMO.
I haven't checked, but isn't Wemby the 3rd option behind Vassell and Keldon?
chet is actually averaging less minutes per game than wemby
Wemby will win it because he is the future face of the NBA, and not Holmgren. ESPN will sell the alien mystic that is Wemby and will cash in on the merchandise. The media will build him up as the next most marketable commodity and it doesn’t help to diminish that by voting a different player.
brandon miller off to pretty good start as well...If he keeps this up....He will be in the
race with wemby and chet
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