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    Nothing matters until after the lottery. Final finish is irrelevant. People need to stop losing their after every game.
    Ummm, May 12th is the lottery

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    Ummm, May 12th is the lottery
    Right, nearly TWO MONTHS AWAY. The post lottery results are what determine the pick, not the final finish.

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    Right, nearly TWO MONTHS AWAY. The post lottery results are what determine the pick, not the final finish.
    not sure why you quoted me then, I was talking about lottery night not tonight's games

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    if memphis beats okc,i will be mind blown.We should of thrown big money at their coach and scouts.
    I've posted it before and will probably keep doing it: Blake Ahearn, Memphis assistant and former Austin Spurs G-league head coach, as well as briefly a Spurs player for 3 games, should be on the shortlist of coaching candidates when Pop retires in 25 years

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    not sure why you quoted me then, I was talking about lottery night not tonight's games
    The most negative view possible, then. If they finish 6th, the odds of them staying there are 8.6%. They have better odds at the #1 pick, 9%, and the odds of them dropping to #7 and surrendering the pick are 29.8%, the highest odds of #7 for any finish position.

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    The most negative view possible, then. If they finish 6th, the odds of them staying there are 8.6%. They have better odds at the #1 pick, 9%, and the odds of them dropping to #7 and surrendering the pick are 29.8%, the highest odds of #7 for any finish position.


    and Spurs dropping to 7th is a 7% chance. so yes, absolute worst case scenario

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    and Spurs dropping to 7th is a 7% chance. so yes, absolute worst case scenario
    No, if Toronto finishes 6th in the final finish, the odds of them dropping to 7th are 29.8%. Check the pick odds on Tankathon.

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    No, if Toronto finishes 6th in the final finish, the odds of them dropping to 7th are 29.8%. Check the pick odds on Tankathon.
    re-read my post

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    King's choking this game against Memphis. Toronto's about to overtake them for 6th.

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    King's choking this game against Memphis. Toronto's about to overtake them for 6th.
    how.........

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    Memphis up 2 with 33 seconds left.

    EDIT: Going to overtime.

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    Well sacto finally did the job and won

    but Memphis is playing way better than Toronto is right now. Only a matter of time imo

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    It’s possible that Toronto climbs to 6, but that’s probably it. Portland have become expert tankers the last two years, and likely see Toronto in their rear view mirror. With most teams approaching 70 games, there isn’t enough time left to jump to #5, and erase that 4 game gap. I’m ok with Toronto at #6 pre-lottery, because they have very little chance of staying there, less chance than we had to win the lottery last year, less chance than THEY have of winning the lottery this year at the #6 position.

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    at the end of the day, this pick is trade-bait. there's no way the FO is going to just draft 18yo, or multiple of them, hoping they work out. it just doesn't make sense

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    It’s possible that Toronto climbs to 6, but that’s probably it. Portland have become expert tankers the last two years, and likely see Toronto in their rear view mirror. With most teams approaching 70 games, there isn’t enough time left to jump to #5, and erase that 4 game gap. I’m ok with Toronto at #6 pre-lottery, because they have very little chance of staying there, less chance than we had to win the lottery last year, less chance than THEY have of winning the lottery this year at the #6 position.
    them getting 6 is not ok...Thats bad for us.Odds are in there favor.If they get 7th worst,Odds are in our favor.

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    them getting 6 is not ok...Thats bad for us.Odds are in there favor.If they get 7th worst,Odds are in our favor.
    For the overall pick, yes, it’s better for them to be #7. For scoring pick #7? FAR, far better for them to finish 6th. If they finish 7th, the pick has a 19.7 chance of being #7. If they finish 6th, those odds for pick #7 become 29.8%.

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    I've posted it before and will probably keep doing it: Blake Ahearn, Memphis assistant and former Austin Spurs G-league head coach, as well as briefly a Spurs player for 3 games, should be on the shortlist of coaching candidates when Pop retires in 25 years
    Something magic is going on in Memphis, whether it's Jenkins or other members of his coaching staff.

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    Something magic is going on in Memphis, whether it's Jenkins or other members of his coaching staff.
    It’s stupid, because they have no chance of playing in, they’re just dropping their pick odds. Imagine the difference between adding a top 3 pick to Ja and JJJ, or adding a 7-9 pick.

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    It’s stupid, because they have no chance of playing in, they’re just dropping their pick odds. Imagine the difference between adding a top 3 pick to Ja and JJJ, or adding a 7-9 pick.
    Haven't we established that top3 in this year's draft is nothing special?

    Anyhow, there was no way for them to get top3 worst odds with current worst teams being so bad.
    Having 4th or 6th worst odds doesn't change that much. They're looking for role players, anyway.

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    It’s possible that Toronto climbs to 6, but that’s probably it. Portland have become expert tankers the last two years, and likely see Toronto in their rear view mirror. With most teams approaching 70 games, there isn’t enough time left to jump to #5, and erase that 4 game gap. I’m ok with Toronto at #6 pre-lottery, because they have very little chance of staying there, less chance than we had to win the lottery last year, less chance than THEY have of winning the lottery this year at the #6 position.
    plus Portland has the 5th strongest schedule remaining, with the return of bane memphis will pass toronto but they'll be 6th before the lottery.

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    Something magic is going on in Memphis, whether it's Jenkins or other members of his coaching staff.
    It's called having a competent coach and system tbh.

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    Haven't we established that top3 in this year's draft is nothing special?

    Anyhow, there was no way for them to get top3 worst odds with current worst teams being so bad.
    Having 4th or 6th worst odds doesn't change that much. They're looking for role players, anyway.
    That’s your opinion.

    I think they probably could have gotten as high as #4, pre lottery, if they had gone into the tank when they should have.

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    It’s stupid, because they have no chance of playing in, they’re just dropping their pick odds. Imagine the difference between adding a top 3 pick to Ja and JJJ, or adding a 7-9 pick.
    In this draft, probably not a lot.

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    It’s stupid, because they have no chance of playing in, they’re just dropping their pick odds. Imagine the difference between adding a top 3 pick to Ja and JJJ, or adding a 7-9 pick.
    They realize something that many pro-tankers don’t: there is actual value in developing, playing compe ive basketball and not being bottom dwelling losers for multiple years. The compe iveness that the role players experience now will pay major dividends when their stars are back in the fold… much more than the difference between taking Kirk Heinrich at #3 instead of Goran Dragic at #7.

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    It’s stupid, because they have no chance of playing in, they’re just dropping their pick odds. Imagine the difference between adding a top 3 pick to Ja and JJJ, or adding a 7-9 pick.
    In addition to the better than decent chance that the number 9 pick in this draft is just as good as the number 1 pick, I think that not tanking is good for maintaining a franchise standard and winning culture, good for keeping their fanbase engaged, and just generally overall good karma in the eyes of the basketball gods.

    I don't begrudge the Spurs front office for not fully tanking after trading Kawhi even though it may have been the smart thing to do at the time. In many ways, I admire it. I like to think in my warped little mind that things worked out the way they did with Wemby for the same reasons. Watch Memphis defy the lottery odds and end up in the top 3 anyway.

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