Definitely something to consider.
tl;dr is the worst kind of ignorance when you ask about something, and someone points you at it. Then you exhibit more ignorance thinking we’re talking about individual deals. Just STFU if you’re not going to bother learning about the CBA and the second apron penalties. The adults are talking.
You think I am about to read 676 pages of law language pdf...
Apron penalties are already in place, since last year, there is no "new CBA" up until 2030.
If the season ended right now we would have 4 picks in this draft. The East is getting weird.
Champ is exactly the type of perimeter role player every team wants. Multiple Champs if possible.
Good shooter, solid defender, need at least two of those in rotation.
I should've written that he's a bench piece, but he's undoubtedly the player with most secured future after those 4 starters.
11/5/2, 6 3pta, 39% for $3M a year is a steal.
We have seven draft picks right now.
If we have more than two picks, we know that the FO will trade some for picks down the road (and that is ok as you don't want to end up like the Bucks without anything that may help you somehow)...go for prospects that won't show up right away...or package them to move up.
Here's a question, IF the Spurs end up with 4 1st round picks and at least one lottery pick, can we still call the front office incompetent?
The rest of the league and the pundits would hail the Spurs as genius architects of team-building.
Would this cause less FO criticism on SpursTalk?
Wish we could end the season now (for draft purposes).... 8, 10, 11, & 16. We are sitting at probably the best pre-lottery outcome we can expect. There are so many prospects in the top 15 that I like. I would use them all... and try to use the 2nd rounders to move that last pick into the top 15.
How do you develop four players at once when we already have a pretty full pipeline? This isn’t fantasy sports. If the season ends like the standings are today, the Spurs will kick those last two picks down the road, or maybe use 2 and 3 to move up, and kick 4 down the road. The biggest fest on this forum is about Branham and Wesley, the second and third FRPs the 2022 draft. Let’s not do that again. They were real raw, and then posters don’t want the coaching staff to play them. How do you develop players if you don’t play them? Do you really see four rotation openings? Do you really want four rookies IN your rotation?
The Spurs didn't even take two rookies this year, in a certain sense. Ingram was always slated for the G-League.
I'm not even sure they'd take two this year. Who knows.
But a player I'd be interested in with a late lotto pick, as that's where I think he'll fall, is Alex Karaban. He's older but that means he can possibly be more plug-n-play.
Absolutely.... next year we only have 11 players with guaranteed salary. Out of those, I'd be happy with only Castle, Vassell, Johnson, Sochan, & Wemby getting major playing time with 4 new rookies backing them up. It looks to me like the top 15 in 2025 is as good or better than the top 4 last year.
There’s absolutely no way four rookies will all get regular minutes on the main squad at the same time. It’s just not happening. If so, then that’s another tanking year and something people like backhome would love every year of his life.
2025-26 roster situation, as of now:
Castle/?/Wesley
Devin/Champ/Branham
Jeremy/?/Sidy
?/Barnes/?
Wemby/?/Bassey.
I didn't include Keldon and Collins because I'd be very upset if they're on the roster next season.
Imo, veterans for backup PG and C positions, one legit forward starter and two rookies look like a realistic outcome.
By legit forward I mean actually trying Keldon+Collins+picks for someone useful instead of getting another washed veteran or a relcamation project.
I'm not saying it will happen... or that my opinion is the same (or more valid) as anyone else on this forum... just that IMHO this is the only (draft) year that I'd be willing to take 4 top 15 rookies at once. And I do believe they'd be coming in better than the bottom half of our current roster.
I know you didn’t say it will happen, I’m merely just saying it won’t. Yes, those rookies will probably be better than the bottom half of the current roster (actually only the ATL pick and the Spurs or Bulls pick, whichever land in the top 14). However, it’s just not the way FO works with allowing that many rookies getting minutes.
Haha, You probably post the most in all the Mock Forums
All depends on what we do with the picks. This current Spurs FO have proven masterful at tearing it down and stockpiling more picks, there is no doubt about that. But last I checked, they don't hand out a trophy for that.
The objective is to win games, until that starts happening, this FO hasn't really accomplished anything as far as team-building goes.
This Front Office loves fans like you. Just laying more track on the patience train!
"We have four rookies on the team, you guys just need to be patient!" as we head to the lottery for the seventh straight year and Brian Wright gets a raise
The good news is that, despite picking up their contracts, Wesley, Branham along with Barnes, Champ, Sidy and Bassey (please lord, save our son) are all easy to move off of and create space for upgrades. Not saying we should be looking to dump any of those guys for the sake of dumping them, but to really update the roster room will have to come from somewhere.
I'm really curious if Castle would be viewed as the starting PG of the future by this Front Office or if he's viewed as more of that toolsy, do-it-all wing/guard. Like you, I really want to see some Castle/Dev/Champ/Barnes/Wemby minutes to see how he handles primary PG duties for extended periods.
I still view Champ as more of a SF than an SG but maybe it's an arbitrary distinction. Either way, that leaves us going into the offseason needing these primary roles filled:
Backup PG
Bench scoring SG/SF
Starting Forward (I'm assuming Jeremy can play either position)
Backup C
Let's say we land two lotto picks (I hope CHI and CHA convey but even if they do I'd expect them to be traded)... Traore is the only traditional PG prospect in the top 10 right now, though I'm curious to see if Harper establishes himself more as a PG or a SG. So I'd expect that it will be that bench scorer and starting forward role that gets filled. Tre Johnson and Liam McNeeley would be a heck of a draft (thinking about it here in November, of course, lots can change).
I'd still want us to make some kind of move for a high caliber vet... but even if we just went with vet backup PG and vet backup C... I think we'd have injected enough talent onto the team to start thinking about the next step forward... assuming we have a coach who wants to play modern basketball and win games.
My guess is the team will take as many rookies as they think work for them, outside of the slots available. Meaning, if they think two players they can get at their spots are the right fits, then they'll take them. If not, they'll move one of them.
That may seem either intuitive or counter-intuitive. Just saying that they probably have ideas of precisely the sorts of needs they have, or are getting closer to them.
I doubt we'd use all four picks for players on the roster next year, even if they convey,.
The FO has been (overly?) focused on long term asset management, ensuring that there is a stockpile in the future. I think (a small) part of that is considering a possible expansion draft, and keeping future picks as assets that don't have to be protected. If they get who they want at the top (whoever...too early to make up your mind) and someone gives them a huge package for 11 / 16 / some combo
Next year is (at the moment)
Castle / Wesley (last year rookie)
Vassell / Keldon/ Branham (last year rookie)
(Starting SF gap - think you want an upgrade) / Champ /
Sochan / Barnes (expiring)
Vic / Collins (expiring)
With Tre, CP3 (retiring?), Mamu etc TBD.
I think you want to upgrade all the bench spots with more shooting options, and this is a year with good talent, so something like (Current tankathon mock, Traore (falling) / McNeeley / Drake Powell (Will Riley)/ CMB (Karaban) could add a bunch of depth and shooting, with guys who'd take a typical rookie year to learn, then be more ready in 26-27.
we should trade one of them for a 2035 pick to get this guy
Just ran it right now, this was the first result:
EDIT: and my 2nd roll
Biggest question: Why does Modesto's finest, Dusty Garza, think it will take 11 years for a 10-year old to turn 19?
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