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    KAT looks injured.

    Spurs going to win this game with him out.

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    Something that me is interestingly meaningless about Traoré is just how terribly everyone mispronounces his name. It's butchered more than any in a long time.

    Even American: Tray-or.

    Every French broadcast I hear: Twah-_(g)reh ? I appreciate that the French pronunciation of the letter R tends to be more gutteral or from the back of the throat, but they go overboard for Traoré and I can't do it either lol

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    Updated mock from Sam Vecenie.

    https://www.nytimes.com/athletic/620...agg-nba-draft/

    The only three mocks I take much interest in are Vecenie, Wasserman from bleacher report, and Givony.
    Vecenie has become my favorite NBA guy, particularly with the draft, but not bad with regular in-season coverage either. with that said, im not huge fans of either CMB or Traore

    Vecenie is way above consensus on CMB. today he did a youtube live mock draft with some other dude where they were taking turns making picks. i think in that one they had CMB going #5 overall. they ended up having spurs take Knueppel and then Asa Newell (Fleming was picked in between them)

    i know we had a poster here do look at some historical comps and by filtering for "feel" (using stuff like assist/to ratio to filter for that) and athleticism and CMB had some extremely favorable outcomes. im not personally crazy aobut him but i could just be missing the boat

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    wow yeah I like Veccenie but CMB + Traore would be unexpected at this stage

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    Yaxel Lendeborg completely dominated Rasheer Flemming in the NIT matchup. Lendeborg had some problems but no doubt in this game.

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    Wasserman just did a new mock. has the Spurs pick Jeremiah Fears at #9 (passing on Knueppel and Jakucionis), Carter Bryant at #16 and Chaz Lanier at #39.
    (nbadraftroom has the Spurs pick Bryant in their latest update as well)

    Wasserman is pretty high on Derik Queen at #5 and Jase Richardson at #8, but low on Jakucionis (#11) and Demin (#25).

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    Wasserman just did a new mock. has the Spurs pick Jeremiah Fears at #9 (passing on Knueppel and Jakucionis), Carter Bryant at #16 and Chaz Lanier at #39.
    (nbadraftroom has the Spurs pick Bryant in their latest update as well)

    Wasserman is pretty high on Derik Queen at #5 and Jase Richardson at #8, but low on Jakucionis (#11) and Demin (#25).
    Fears and Bryant is the best they’d get for semi-tanking the rest of the season??? And a 6’4 guard at 2nd round? Has he seen Zubac got 20 rebounds against the Spurs, and every jumbo big man attacking Wemby on the paint??? The Spurs need a defensive big, a knockdown shooter, and another project big in that order.
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    Did anyone watch Texas vs Xavier last night? Tre Johnson had a nice line so was just curious how he played. Dailyn Swain of Xavier is an NBA caliber high level defensive wing prospect so should have been a nice test for him.

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    Did anyone watch Texas vs Xavier last night? Tre Johnson had a nice line so was just curious how he played. Dailyn Swain of Xavier is an NBA caliber high level defensive wing prospect so should have been a nice test for him.
    Yeah. He did pretty well overall. Got frustrated near the end and jacked a bad shot, but okay. Their coach was so bad this season. Offense was just iso players. Wouldn't run screens or anything.

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    best description of Tre Johnson i read is that he's a terrorist on the court

    its pretty crazy how well some freshmen have been shooting lately

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    best description of Tre Johnson i read is that he's a terrorist on the court

    its pretty crazy how well some freshmen have been shooting lately
    I'm not quite sure what that means, good or bad. I'd say Rodney Terry was the real Texas terrorist.

    One promising thing about Johnson is that he plays well off-ball.

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    I'm not quite sure what that means, good or bad. I'd say Rodney Terry was the real Texas terrorist.

    One promising thing about Johnson is that he plays well off-ball.
    i think thats partially the point

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    i think thats partially the point
    I guess it seems drastic. Johnson doesn't have a huge negative impact on the game other than going invisible at times. If he takes tough shots, in part that's on Terry for putting him in bad situations. He's not a great iso scorer at this point but was forced to try to be.

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    Fears and Bryant is the best they’d get for semi-tanking the rest of the season??? And a 6’4 guard at 2nd round? Has he seen Zubac got 20 rebounds against the Spurs, and every jumbo big man attacking Wemby on the paint??? The Spurs need a defensive big, a knockdown shooter, and another project big in that order.
    Just keep in mind that a lot of mock drafts at this point aren't really heavily considering team needs. No real need to get worked up about a bad fit in early mocks.

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    Can you hook those of us outside of the paywall up with the highlights?
    They also discuss this on his game theory podcast today. Globally he seems to be relatively low on this draft after the top two, which I found interesting. Apparently some of the teams he talks to feel similarly. Has us taking Knipple at 9 and Asa at 16.

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    Did anyone watch Texas vs Xavier last night? Tre Johnson had a nice line so was just curious how he played. Dailyn Swain of Xavier is an NBA caliber high level defensive wing prospect so should have been a nice test for him.
    Many of the draft evaluators seem low on Tre. Sounds like he’s basically a thin chucker.

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    They also discuss this on his game theory podcast today. Globally he seems to be relatively low on this draft after the top two, which I found interesting. Apparently some of the teams he talks to feel similarly. Has us taking Knipple at 9 and Asa at 16.
    Yeah, he and Brice have been saying this for awhile (though before it was the Top 5, interesting that has now shrunken down to a Top 2). Fans like to keep repeating that this is a "strong draft" but it's really not. It just happens to have Flagg and Harper up top.

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    Wasserman just did a new mock. has the Spurs pick Jeremiah Fears at #9 (passing on Knueppel and Jakucionis), Carter Bryant at #16 and Chaz Lanier at #39.
    (nbadraftroom has the Spurs pick Bryant in their latest update as well)

    Wasserman is pretty high on Derik Queen at #5 and Jase Richardson at #8, but low on Jakucionis (#11) and Demin (#25).
    I guess they’re not factoring in need right now. Fears makes little sense after the Fox trade.

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    Yeah, he and Brice have been saying this for awhile (though before it was the Top 5, interesting that has now shrunken down to a Top 2). Fans like to keep repeating that this is a "strong draft" but it's really not. It just happens to have Flagg and Harper up top.
    Of course nothing is certain but I could see Edgecombe, Kon, CMB, Queen, Sorber, Malauch as possible AS if their potentials are met.

    I still like Wolf as a solid role player who’s going to have a long career in the NBA. And sometimes that’s all you need, a Tiago, a Diaw or a Danny Green.
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    I have a lot of questions about fit with this draft. We have 3 building blocks in Castle, Fox, and Wemby. Now what we need is shooting. Like a lot of shooting. And an athletic rebounder would be nice as well. I wonder how all in the Spurs are this offseason. They need to know that we have officially started our window and the time to make big FA acquisitions is while Wemby is still cheap. We are paying him $13 million a year. Soon he will cost $50 million a year which is still a steal for him.
    Wemby's base year in 27-28 when he signs his new contract will be $65.4 million, assuming he's going to be supermax eligible.

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    They also discuss this on his game theory podcast today. Globally he seems to be relatively low on this draft after the top two, which I found interesting. Apparently some of the teams he talks to feel similarly. Has us taking Knipple at 9 and Asa at 16.
    I remember the big knock on Ben Simmons being that he couldn't get LSU to the tournament and wasn't a winning player, and low and behold it was 100% correct. I'm wondering why it should be different with Harper when he should still be a big fish in a small pond going against college players if he's this can't miss star PG talent. Why is everyone so sure he's not another Scoot Henderson? Flagg is a mile ahead of everyone else in this draft.
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    Asa Newell and Georgia bounced in first round. Newell scored 20 with 8 rebounds on 6-10 shooting (0-2 from 3), 8-10 from the line. 1 assist, 4 turnovers, no steals or blocks

    he's not among my favorites but is somebody i could see the spurs picking

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    I remember the big knock on Ben Simmons being that he couldn't get LSU to the tournament and wasn't a winning player, and low and behold it was 100% correct. I'm wondering why it should be different with Harper when he should still be a big fish in a small pond going against college players if he's this can't miss star PG talent. Why is everyone so sure he's not another Scoot Henderson? Flagg is a mile ahead of everyone else in this draft.
    I think there’s too many variables that affect winning at the college level to pin on the star player especially for smaller college programs.

    Anthony Edwards Georgia team finished 16-16 overall and 5-13 in SEC play. Funny enough that team had Toumani Camara on it.

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    Demin had a solid game for BYU who comfortably advanced. 15 points of 6-11 shooting, 3-7 from 3. 4 rebounds 2 assists, 4 turnovers, no steals or blocks

    nice shooting game, but after a hot start to the year, he ended up sub-30%. his FT's being under 70% are also cause for concern. but he has good size and skill, but struggle to see how that works out in the pros without a consistent outside shot. he's not a good enough defender like Franz to overcome his shooting issues (Franz has improved as a shooter with time). you're kind of looking at a less athletic, less productive evan turner...

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    you're kind of looking at a less athletic, less productive evan turner...
    Exactly, sounds like a San Antonio Spur already

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