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Spurs should be building to a championship, not mediocrity. This would be Dallas-level incompetence
I wouldn't be surprised if hawks just want players and picks. They probably want Johnson and Jones/Collins to start for example. Or more likely Vassell. Just imo.
Spurs should be building to a championship, not mediocrity. This would be Dallas-level incompetence
Murray already blew out a foot and is lucky to have kept SOME athleticism…
resigning damaged goods is always a bad idea
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Sounds like exploratory surgery looking for cancer. Joking. Still seems like a long shot.
For a short-term rental while the Spurs bring up a drafted PG, sounds good to me.
Reminder that the price ATL paid for DJM was two unprotected FRPs, one protected pick swap, one lotto-protected FRP from a team who's playoff chances are dubious.
I think we can all agree that DJM's value has only gone down since this point, by how much is the question. Even if you view the original trade as a rental, rentals still have a cost. My estimate is that DJM's value is approximately half.
I'd offer our '27 FRP (unprotected) plus the CHI pick. They can have any of our scrub ass players they want outside of Wemby, Devin, Keldon, Tre. If they want Sochan, reduce the CHI pick to the CHA pick and two SRPs.
Depends on the price and whatnot.
This reeks of the trades, like the Ayton trade and many others that get rumors but are not even on the same planetary system of the truth. If anything, this is Atlanta trying to bid up the asking price by implying that the Spurs want him back. There is no better way to bid up his trade value than act like a team with a bunch of picks, salary cap space, and young players wants him. That's the way to get the players they want from the Lakers.
What would they want from the Lakers?
Would have to be the Charlotte pick tbh
Thinking who may actually be in the market for DJM here. A team like Houston may be a sly, unexpected one, really improve their defense and point of attack options, maybe move off Jalen Green, that sort of thing.
Note that Atlanta DOESN'T HAVE TO trade Dejounte. It's just them exploring shaking things up. You're not getting him for nothing; they'd just keep him. But some of these younger teams could use him. Lots of teams could use him.
There have been rumbling of Houston moving on from Green. I'd kinda like that because he doesn't move the needle for them next year. Atl might like ot because he won't hurt their tank for the current season....I could see that..
"..and we're building around Keldon."
That burn attempt was bad enough on its own, and it's aged even worse.
I would too. Why in the would Atlanta though?
The Chicago pick is protected anyways.
They don't have to, but they have to do something.
They're 14-21 with no signs of improvement. They traded away their picks and it's obvious Trae and DJ aren't that good of a fit together.
Bogdanovic is their other valuable player, but he's 31 and on a bargain contract, they don't want to trade him away.
Jalen Johnson seems untouchable because he's been the brightest spot of their season outside of Trae doing his thing.
Noone else has much value. Hunter's value tanked a bit.
Imo, I can see a three team trade happening.
They want Siakam, but I don't think Toronto wants Murray, they want to rebuild.
Since this year's class is bad, I'd give Toronto their pick back if they take Collins and Granham's contracts.
And give Atlanta their swap back, along with Chicago or Charlotte pick. Then they can figure out what they're willing to give up for Siakam.
On our side it would be Toronto pick, Hawks swap and one of Chicago/Charlotte for Murray, with Collins and Granham salaries going out.
Take it or leave it, Spurs don't have to do this, Hawks and Raptors are both in a bad spot.
I actually heard this 1-2 weeks ago, but didn't post it because I wasn't sold on the source.
I don't like a lot of the fit: Another string bean, who can't get to the rim/line, average play making and though an improved 3-point shooter, not quite a spacer.
But, to play devil's advocate: You can't check every box, he's probably the best they can realistically do anytime soon overall and they'd still have surplus picks.
Even if they select a Topic or whoever, it'll likely be at least a few years before him or that player is ready to begin impacting winning. They can't wait that long.
The Hawks would have to swallow their pride (though they might insist on one of their picks back to attempt to somewhat save face), but if the Spurs are motivated enough, they can easily beat the best offer of the Knicks, Lakers and whoever else might realistically get involved.
They want quality draft equity + salary relief to attempt to reload one last time around Young (and Johnson) before the time inevitably comes to part ways.
This is along the lines of what I suspect it'd take.
According to the Hawks forum insider, the Spurs interest is legit
https://www.hawksquawk.net/topic/437.../123/#comments
The 25 pick is completely off limits unless they're trading Trae. That's the kind of piece you can cash in for a star when teams will be falling over themselves to tank for Cooper Flagg.
They wouldn't. It'll take more...
That we can provide...
Grimes + Fournier + middling picks almost got done today? Am i reading that right?
Holy Grimes is like their Branham and Fournier is like their second Branham.
if that's all it takes then the price is extremely low
it's like Branham and one of Graham/McDermott/Collins
Yeah, that was the obvious Knicks offer. Spurs don't have a young, inexpensive, 3 and D guard like Grimes, who'd be a nice fit alongside Young, but he's not so enticing so where the Spurs advantage in quality of draft equity couldn't swing it in their favor.
Also, I don't think Murray would markedly improve the Knicks, but it wouldn't behoove the Hawks, who are looking to re-tool, to potentially further strengthen a second tier East team.
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