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    "the core"

    This team is shît there's no possibility of a core
    yeah, exactly. that's basically what i said.

    the problem is this isn't a team that will go anywhere.

    this team will have to go through a lot of iterations before victor and the team can grow together.


    it's refreshing to hear pop say the right things ... but he's making it seem like this team is last year's thunder ...

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    Do you see any similarities between what you are doing and what OKC has done?
    We do exactly the same thing. Sam (Presti) has been great but it took him some years to get to that point. They had many draft picks and are starting to get the benefits from them. We must have the same patience, pick the right players.
    this rich as fück

    i was always advocating for the spurs to be like okc and i got trashed on here for it.

    presti would've gotten three times as much for lamarcus, demar, rudy gay than the spurs did.
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    I'd rather see them just go to Victor on every play to see what he does. Do that for about 10 straight games. What's the worst that could happen? There's no reason to "develop" scrubs, the league has no shortage of them.
    He would be guarded more tightly than he is now.

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    He would be guarded more tightly than he is now.
    good. that's literally development.

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    good. that's literally development.
    What would he develop?

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    If I owned the franchise (ha ha) the first things that would be rushed is dissolving the services of the GM and HC. The team clearly needs to head in a new direction.

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    He would be guarded more tightly than he is now.
    If the Spurs are going to experiment with someone, it should be Victor. I feel like Pop is trying to squeeze trade value out of these scrubs at the cost of developing the franchise guy. Maybe I am wrong, but I feel comfortable just the same in saying there's no way in this group will see the playoffs together.

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    What would he develop?
    Giving Jeremy the ball on every trip seemed to be great to you. If that develops Jeremy, then giving Victor the ball where he can operate and get iterations of mistakes and successes would develop him.

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    If I owned the franchise (ha ha) the first things that would be rushed is dissolving the services of the GM and HC. The team clearly needs to head in a new direction.
    what new direction? bring the cheerleaders back?

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    What would he develop?
    ... is this a serious question ?

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    ... is this a serious question ?
    Yes.

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    Giving Jeremy the ball on every trip seemed to be great to you. If that develops Jeremy, then giving Victor the ball where he can operate and get iterations of mistakes and successes would develop him.
    You want Victor to dribble down the court every possession. You don't think other teams have brains?

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    Giving Jeremy the ball on every trip seemed to be great to you. If that develops Jeremy, then giving Victor the ball where he can operate and get iterations of mistakes and successes would develop him.
    Rack it!

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    You want Victor to dribble down the court every possession. You don't think other teams have brains?
    Victor is very capable of dishing out assists.
    Given more ops, he would deal out even more.

    Yes he needs to work on dribbling in traffic and not getting the ball swiped.
    More stuff he could work on instead of Pop n Sochans idio experiment and Kombe Vassell developing into an even more one dimensional selfish ballhog.

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    Victor is very capable of dishing out assists.
    Given more ops, he would deal out even more.

    Yes he needs to work on dribbling in traffic and not getting the ball swiped.
    More stuff he could work on instead of Pop n Sochans idio experiment and Kombe Vassell developing into an even more one dimensional selfish ballhog.
    So he can't bring the ball down every possesion?

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    So he can't bring the ball down every possesion?
    He could, but what would be the purpose?

    I don't know of any NBA player who brought the ball down every possession for an entire season.
    Have you been drinking with Popped?

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    You want Victor to dribble down the court every possession. You don't think other teams have brains?
    Is that "where he can operate"? That's a well worn phrase in the NBA for big men. Victor runs down the court and flails around for a possession then back he goes the other direction. Soon he's gassed because he's doing too much at both ends while some of the others are just bricking shots or turning the ball over.

    The experiment needs to be with Victor. If the Spurs didn't get a great pick then sure, try to make lemonade.

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    Instead of letting Vic gass out setting screens and running around like a role player, why not try an EASY pick and roll?

    Just an idea

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    do you not understand basketball? or facing adversity in general?

    if teams clamp down on wemby in the RS then that'll help his situational awareness and prepare him for defenses in the playoffs.

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    do you not understand basketball? or facing adversity in general?

    if teams clamp down on wemby in the RS then that'll help his situational awareness and prepare him for defenses in the playoffs.
    He needs offensive reps. If he is more closely guarded than he is now then he won't get it.

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    Not sure the best thread for this, Ben Goliver has a great analysis of the Spurs situation and their strategy with Victor

    from the 55'


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    Not sure the best thread for this, Ben Goliver has a great analysis of the Spurs situation and their strategy with Victor

    from the 55'

    makes sense that Ben's take resonates with many ST posters bc he doesn't watch Spurs games either

    lol trading for monte morris

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    You haven't listened to the whole pat have you...

    (it's a very nuanced/not radical take at all contrary to the snifers's)

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    Not sure the best thread for this, Ben Goliver has a great analysis of the Spurs situation and their strategy with Victor

    from the 55'

    Who is Ben Gulliver are we suppose to know?

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