LMAO wemby

[Cry Havoc]

This has to stop. Last year's Spurs had the worst defensive rating in history by absolute numbers, but the entire league has made big strides in offensive efficiency in the last decade or so.

Relative to league average, last year's Spurs defense wasn't even the worst in the last decade let alone the worst in NBA history.

So your argument is they were incredibly awful instead of historically bad? I mean, that's certainly a distinction to make. Not sure if it's the hill you die on. Offenses have improved but the spurs were still the worst in the L by a pretty notable margin.

[widowmaker]

Wemby didn’t play spurs beat the suns and………..

[Seventyniner]

So your argument is they were incredibly awful instead of historically bad? I mean, that's certainly a distinction to make. Not sure if it's the hill you die on. Offenses have improved but the spurs were still the worst in the L by a pretty notable margin.

Here's a chart of league worst defenses, by Defensive Rating, going back 10 years.

SEASON	AVG DRTG	WORST TEAM	WORST DRTG	DIFF	% DIFF
2014	106.7	MIL	111.8	5.1	4.8%
2015	105.6	MIN	112.2	6.6	6.3%
2016	106.4	LAL	111.6	5.2	4.9%
2017	108.8	LAL	113.0	4.2	3.9%
2018	108.6	PHO	112.8	4.2	3.9%
2019	110.4	CLE	117.6	7.2	6.5%
2020	110.6	WAS	115.5	4.9	4.4%
2021	112.3	SAC	117.2	4.9	4.4%
2022	112.0	POR	116.9	4.9	4.4%
2023	114.8	SAS	120.0	5.2	4.5%

Last year's Spurs were about on par with other league-worst defenses in the last decade. That 120.0 is the highest number on the list, which is where people get the "worst defense in NBA history" idea, but that leaves out the context of overall league-wide improvement in offensive efficiency.

[baseline bum]

Here's a chart of league worst defenses, by Defensive Rating, going back 10 years.

SEASON	AVG DRTG	WORST TEAM	WORST DRTG	DIFF	% DIFF
2014	106.7	MIL	111.8	5.1	4.8%
2015	105.6	MIN	112.2	6.6	6.3%
2016	106.4	LAL	111.6	5.2	4.9%
2017	108.8	LAL	113.0	4.2	3.9%
2018	108.6	PHO	112.8	4.2	3.9%
2019	110.4	CLE	117.6	7.2	6.5%
2020	110.6	WAS	115.5	4.9	4.4%
2021	112.3	SAC	117.2	4.9	4.4%
2022	112.0	POR	116.9	4.9	4.4%
2023	114.8	SAS	120.0	5.2	4.5%

Last year's Spurs were about on par with other league-worst defenses in the last decade. That 120.0 is the highest number on the list, which is where people get the "worst defense in NBA history" idea, but that leaves out the context of overall league-wide improvement in offensive efficiency.

OK so the Spurs were the worst defense last year and without Wemby they were significantly worse this year at 125.5 defensive rating without him until last night. Can't excuse that dropoff with any pace talk since the worst defensive ratings this year are Utah and Washington at 119.4.

[scott]

So what's the takeaway here? We are trading Wemby? Think we can get a SRP for him?

[Leetonidas]

Lol this thread getting to two pages

[DAF86]

winning 22% of games with wemby

also winning 22% of games without wemby

wemby officially a non-factor

30% winning with Wemby

[CorrectCrusader]

OK so the Spurs were the worst defense last year and without Wemby they were significantly worse this year at 125.5 defensive rating without him until last night. Can't excuse that dropoff with any pace talk since the worst defensive ratings this year are Utah and Washington at 119.4.

2014 worst defense would be 2024s best defense. Blows my mind

[Seventyniner]

OK so the Spurs were the worst defense last year and without Wemby they were significantly worse this year at 125.5 defensive rating without him until last night. Can't excuse that dropoff with any pace talk since the worst defensive ratings this year are Utah and Washington at 119.4.

I'm not arguing with what you're saying. Yes, the Spurs' defense last year was league-worst and this year has been even worse when Wemby is off the floor. Needless to say, that will have to drastically improve for the Spurs to be compe ive.

What I'm pushing back against is the "historically bad" narrative. Last year's Spurs defense wasn't any worse relative to league average than, say, the 2016 Lakers.

Defensive Rating is already adjusted for pace, so pace isn't a consideration in these numbers.

[rjv]

rockets have gone on a tear with sengun out. that dude sucks.

[chubbs]

Lol this thread getting to two pages

this guy gets it

[libertarian4321]

lol beating suns without him
lol according to spurs fans this is an 0-82 team that cant even compete among d2 colleges

This post aged like fresh milk left out in the summer San Antonio sun.

[Knoxxx]

Lol this thread getting to two pages

ST posters have no shame.