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    You did. You said he was offered probation on the gun charge
    Lets watch and see how he maneuvers around it, CC.

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    You did. You said he was offered probation on the gun charge
    No. I said this after watching the special prosecutor speak after the conviction on the gun charge:
    Sounded like the special prosecutor was ready to ask for probation.
    You're arguing nothing, dude. Why is this your way?

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    Your phrasing was cute. Yes, hunters bud in California paid the taxes after hunter got caught on the evasion. And no, ordinary taxpayers that fail to report millions in income usually go to jail
    then why isnt trump in jail

    he defrauded the irs all thru the 90’s and early 2000’s

    he paid zero income taxes one year and took a fraudulent 70-80 million write off another year

    as president- his handpicked guy heading the irs shielded him from even providing lawful subpoenaed irs forms and on and on and on…

    so- no

    rich white billionaires do not get held to the same standard

    and what is different about hunter biden getting his taxes paid by someone else and trump getting his legal fees and fraud judgements paid off by gop donors?

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    No. I said this after watching the special prosecutor speak after the conviction on the gun charge:

    You're arguing nothing, dude. Why is this your way?
    Effy, come see!!!...Dumper still battin' a thousand...ain't been wrong once. Nary 1 time. Nary.

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    then why isnt trump in jail

    he defrauded the irs all thru the 90’s and early 2000’s

    he paid zero income taxes one year and took a fraudulent 70-80 million write off another year

    as president- his handpicked guy heading the irs shielded him from even providing lawful subpoenaed irs forms and on and on and on…

    so- no

    rich white billionaires do not get held to the same standard

    and what is different about hunter biden getting his taxes paid by someone else and trump getting his legal fees and fraud judgements paid off by gop donors?
    Indict the I.R.S., Homer.

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    then why isnt trump in jail

    he defrauded the irs all thru the 90’s and early 2000’s

    he paid zero income taxes one year and took a fraudulent 70-80 million write off another year

    as president- his handpicked guy heading the irs shielded him from even providing lawful subpoenaed irs forms and on and on and on…

    so- no

    rich white billionaires do not get held to the same standard

    and what is different about hunter biden getting his taxes paid by someone else and trump getting his legal fees and fraud judgements paid off by gop donors?
    Conservatives typically want all the benefits of taxes, such as having decent roads, rails and airlines, courts and police that work quickly/prosecute every crime, a powerful military, etc without actually having to pay their share of taxes for all of these things.

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    Conservatives typically want all the benefits of taxes, such as having decent roads, rails and airlines, courts and police that work quickly/prosecute every crime, a powerful military, etc without actually having to pay their share of taxes for all of these things.
    How much is enough?

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    How much is enough?
    It's got to be more, from everyone, up and down the line. It's extremely unpopular but the right move has been to raise taxes, particularly on large corporations and rich individuals, for approximately a generation (or more) now.

    It's a ty situation, paying more taxes, but it's the one we're in.

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    How much is enough?
    how much is too much?

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    Conservatives typically want all the benefits of taxes, such as having decent roads, rails and airlines, courts and police that work quickly/prosecute every crime, a powerful military, etc without actually having to pay their share of taxes for all of these things.
    Then don't give free health care/full ride to millions of Nazi's in Ukraine for over 2 years and counting. There's a start.

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    It's got to be more, from everyone, up and down the line. It's extremely unpopular but the right move has been to raise taxes, particularly on large corporations and rich individuals, for approximately a generation (or more) now.

    It's a ty situation, paying more taxes, but it's the one we're in.
    ...so you can give free health care/full ride to millions of Nazi's in Ukraine.

    Stop fighting everyone else's wars. And quit starting our own wars.

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    how much is too much?
    The top 10% already pay 75% of total taxes and the top 50% already pay 97% of total taxes. I know my blended rate of federal taxes last year was 23% and that doesn't count state and local taxes where I am definitely not getting my money's worth.

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    The top 10% already pay 75% of total taxes and the top 50% already pay 97% of total taxes. I know my blended rate of federal taxes last year was 23% and that doesn't count state and local taxes where I am definitely not getting my money's worth.
    ...but the wet ones are.

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    From State sponsored CNN:::

    [[[His defense apparently
    ran something like this: When Hunter Biden signed a form attesting that he was not an unlawful user of drugs, he thought his response to the statement was true because he was not using drugs at the moment he signed.]]]



    C'mon, Dumper:::get over here and explain this. And don't say it sounds like something Trump would say. I already thought that & now said it.
    tee, hee.

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    The top 10% already pay 75% of total taxes and the top 50% already pay 97% of total taxes. I know my blended rate of federal taxes last year was 23% and that doesn't count state and local taxes where I am definitely not getting my money's worth.
    how so?

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    ? How so what?

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    He's got you in the wringer, CC. And the bas does it well. Dumper has never been wrong. Winester? Once, maybe.

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    Let's approach this differently whinehole. What do you think is a reasonable annual state and local tax amount per person in order to receive the usual services from the state and local governments? I am asking for a specific dollar amount.

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    The top 10% already pay 75% of total taxes and the top 50% already pay 97% of total taxes. I know my blended rate of federal taxes last year was 23% and that doesn't count state and local taxes where I am definitely not getting my money's worth.
    The top 1% have 50% of the wealth. Things we all know.

    Lol "money's worth".

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    Let's approach this differently whinehole. What do you think is a reasonable annual state and local tax amount per person in order to receive the usual services from the state and local governments? I am asking for a specific dollar amount.
    I don't have a specific amount -- but you did. You said you don't get your money's worth.

    What do you think you should get for your money? Can you quantify what you "paid too much for?"

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    How much more did you pay than you should have?

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    How much more did you pay than you should have?
    Probably $30,000 more than it was worth to me. Good dodge of a direct question BTW.

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    Probably $30,000 more than it was worth to me. Good dodge of a direct question BTW.
    ...you in' eh. Nailed that Dumper's dumper to the barn door...I mean Winester's dumper.

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    Probably $30,000 more than it was worth to me. Good dodge of a direct question BTW.
    You just dodged mine, you didn't say what you got overcharged for or what it should have cost.

    Besides, I never indulged false precision on the equities of taxation. You introduced the theme, I just asked a follow up question.

    It's hilarious you think your taxes are unfair merely because you're not satisfied with "what you paid" vs "what you got."

    It's like you don't even know what taxes are, or what they are for.

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    are they supposed to comfort and satisfy already affluent people?

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