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    Steph said he is not shooting for ROY and that is why he didn't mention it all year. Told you nobody cares. Fans making up.

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    LOVE THIS KID!!!!

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    Steph said he is not shooting for ROY and that is why he didn't mention it all year. Told you nobody cares. Fans making up.
    Rethink your life he’s a LOCK!!!

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    Steph said he is not shooting for ROY and that is why he didn't mention it all year. Told you nobody cares. Fans making up.
    I don't care what he says... he was clearly upset about not winning the Slam Dunk Contest, I don't believe the notion that he doesn't care about ROTY. That doesn't mean he wouldn't sacrifice individual awards for team success, but he's a compe or and no doubt if all else is equal he cares about the award.

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    I still think he cares, but it probably isn't his number one focus if that makes sense. I'm pretty sure he still wants to win it regardless of what he's said about it. I think he really wanted that slam dunk contest too. He seemed very energized that all-star weekend. It was good to see him competing and having fun out there during all-star weekend. Lots of NBA players don't seem to care about it that much, and that is part of the reason it's not as good anymore, but Steph was the opposite. Victor too.

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    Steph's up to -1100 on Bovada for ROY

    https://www.bovada.lv/sports/basketb...rs/futures-odd

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    He keeps improving offensively

    He's got many more offensive moves lately.....

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    he doesn't pass the eye test.

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    he doesn't pass the eye test.
    Elaborate, please.

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    Elaborate, please.
    He's blind.
    Don't engage with him, he's a re who's only gimmick is ting on Castle.
    I'm frankly sick of people in here who do nothing but bait with awful takes that are obviously wrong.

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    He's blind.
    Don't engage with him, he's a re who's only gimmick is ting on Castle.
    I'm frankly sick of people in here who do nothing but bait with awful takes that are obviously wrong.
    I didn't think he was, but you may be correct. I just thought he might be looking at other aspects other than scoring, so I was curious what he's looking for when he watches Steph (that is, if he wasn't just ting on him for no reason).

    I thought Steph showed tonight that even though he was in foul trouble and missed chunks of the game, he was still able to come out there and still be composed enough to do what he does (score, play defense, pass the ball, rebound a little bit).
    He didn't have the greatest game, but I liked that he was still playing his usual game in between the foul calls and sitting on the bench while in foul trouble.

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    Castle is all business all the time, I love that. I'm having a hard time recalling a rookie guard adding to his offensive arsenal midseason like he has. He'll be knocking on the All-Star door by year 3 when we are starting to click.

    As long as he plays 65 games or whatever the minimum is, ROY is his to lose. And by lose, I mean averaging 7 pts and 4 TO from here on out. Ain't happenin'.

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    he doesn't pass the eye test.
    Raven’s eye test says that “Devin Vassell is very good, consistently” which is about all you need to know about his eye sight.

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    Raven’s eye test says that “Devin Vassell is very good, consistently” which is about all you need to know about his eye sight.
    he also thought branham losing his rotation spot was undeserved

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    Elaborate, please.
    On offense he's basically kirby bryant and on D he's barely ahead of belinelli. It is actually hard to have such a negative impact on a team on both ends... thankfully he's rookie and surely he'll improve, but currently he's on the trajectory of professional cancer, rather than the plus defender we thought we drafted.

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    he also thought branham losing his rotation spot was undeserved
    i was obviously right?

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    On offense he's basically kirby bryant and on D he's barely ahead of belinelli. It is actually hard to have such a negative impact on a team on both ends... thankfully he's rookie and surely he'll improve, but currently he's on the trajectory of professional cancer, rather than the plus defender we thought we drafted.
    Are you a masochist of some kind? Do you enjoy being a re ?
    I genuinely don't understand what's wrong with some of you people. You're just spewing nonsense even though you know there are no stats that will back your claims, especially the awful takes about Castle's defense you've been posting since November.
    It's like you want people to dunk on you.

    Same goes for Mr. Body and his Fox hating that's awful on sove many levels and can easily be disproven.


    Image posted by scott 5 days ago.

    But you simply have to be a re .

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    I didn't think he was, but you may be correct. I just thought he might be looking at other aspects other than scoring, so I was curious what he's looking for when he watches Steph (that is, if he wasn't just ting on him for no reason).

    I thought Steph showed tonight that even though he was in foul trouble and missed chunks of the game, he was still able to come out there and still be composed enough to do what he does (score, play defense, pass the ball, rebound a little bit).
    He didn't have the greatest game, but I liked that he was still playing his usual game in between the foul calls and sitting on the bench while in foul trouble.
    it's not a shtick, it is in fact embarassing to defend him at this point, like when it is that obvious, it is hard to even start the list of what he's doing wrong.. but the important part is that he's not playing with the team, he's playing his own game for his own stats, i cannot count the times where he'd go for an offensive move 1 against 5 with everyone of his teammates still on the other end of the half. When he handles the ball he always either looks for his own penetration or passes from a static position, he doesn't drive and pass creating space for his teammates, it's either cathartic assist or no pass at all and the team is very obviously suffering because of it. Devin and Champ especially you can really see how the good shots really dry up whenever castle is on the floor. On D he's just flat out awful, gets scored on by anyone and can't keep up with anyone either, yes he's not cp3 level of slow but add not keeping up on others penetration with his outrageous amount of reaching for steals, and you get our defensive rating. I was thinking that he could have been a pg defender since he has the size and theoretical speed for it, but i really don't see it anymore, and there was no doubt he had no chance to contest taller sgs or god forbid sfs, like he simply doesn't have the size for it.

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    Are you a masochist of some kind? Do you enjoy being a re ?
    I genuinely don't understand what's wrong with some of you people. You're just spewing nonsense even though you know there are no stats that will back your claims, especially the awful takes about Castle's defense you've been posting since November.
    It's like you want people to dunk on you.

    Same goes for Mr. Body and his Fox hating that's awful on sove many levels and can easily be disproven.


    Image posted by scott 5 days ago.

    But you simply have to be a re .
    i said he doesn't pass the eye test and you post stats.. your reading comprehension is lacking. But also your stats are laughable since you don't get stats at all.

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    i said he doesn't pass the eye test and you post stats..
    And I told you that you're ing blind.
    You've been spewing the same eye test line since November after nearly every single game and you don't have anything to back it up.
    Now you're going to say how he got outplayed by Luka in a couple of situations last night. Guess what? It's near-impossible to play man to man defense against modern superstars because of how the game is officiated and even the best defenders in the league get scored on regularly.

    your reading comprehension is lacking. But also your stats are laughable since you don't get stats at all.
    https://www.bball-index.com/
    One of the most reputable sites for advanced stats, but I'm sure you never heard of it because it's all about the eye test.
    I don't have a subscription, I'd like if someone could enlighten you. But then again, that wouldn't do much since you're either blind or just straight up trolling.

    Much like I told Mr. Body, are you really that arrogant to think you're right if you're like the only user on this site who has that awful take and everyone else disagrees?
    s sake, why do I even bother.

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    And I told you that you're ing blind.
    You've been spewing the same eye test line since November after nearly every single game and you don't have anything to back it up.
    Now you're going to say how he got outplayed by Luka in a couple of situations last night. Guess what? It's near-impossible to play man to man defense against modern superstars because of how the game is officiated and even the best defenders in the league get scored on regularly.



    https://www.bball-index.com/
    One of the most reputable sites for advanced stats, but I'm sure you never heard of it because it's all about the eye test.
    I don't have a subscription, I'd like if someone could enlighten you. But then again, that wouldn't do much since you're either blind or just straight up trolling.

    Much like I told Mr. Body, are you really that arrogant to think you're right if you're like the only user on this site who has that awful take and everyone else disagrees?
    s sake, why do I even bother.
    right.. it's the refs fault..

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    right.. it's the refs fault..
    off, re . Especially after mentioning reading comprehension.
    I think of myself as someone who's patient enough, I've discussed a lot of things with most members in here, but once you cross the re line, there's no coming back.
    As of late, your Castle takes are the most re ed thing on this forum alongside Mr. Body's Fox hate.

    It's one thing to not like a player and talk about their issues because both have them, but to say like Castle is a Belinelli on defense or Fox does nothing except iso scoring is just straight up trolling and you'd get banned on every single forum that had anyone resembling an active mod.

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    Raven has repeatedly shown themselves to be one of the most clueless posters around with zero understanding of statistics. "Devin Vassell is very good, consistently" is my second favorite take of the season after "Zach Collins is having an objectively good season".

    There is literally zero reason to engage in good faith with this clown.

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    off, re . Especially after mentioning reading comprehension.
    I think of myself as someone who's patient enough, I've discussed a lot of things with most members in here, but once you cross the re line, there's no coming back.
    As of late, your Castle takes are the most re ed thing on this forum alongside Mr. Body's Fox hate.

    It's one thing to not like a player and talk about their issues because both have them, but to say like Castle is a Belinelli on defense or Fox does nothing except iso scoring is just straight up trolling and you'd get banned on every single forum that had anyone resembling an active mod.
    it's not an opinion, reading comprehension was legitimately garbage, I said he doesn't pass the eye test and you post statistics in response (technically, they are actually NOT statistics but functions), how else would you describe the response otherwise? I don't know what you're talking about with the fox takes, but on the belinelli takes, well I think most people know how much i have always disliked him, but castle with all the justifications that he can have (rookie, atrocious coaching, godawful lineups, no center) has just as many bad defensive possessions.

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