Cooper Flagg — 2025 NBA Draft Prospect

[Russo21]

What do you think of Asa Newell? Tankathon has him around 14th pick where Spurs could likely pick. Or Johnni Broome older at 23 yrs old but with more complete game including step-back 3’s

Boyles is intriguing and Pop could possibly fall in love with his Rodman-type defense, but another 6’7 PF??

Pop? What's he got to do with it? The old fool is on his death bed being fed through a feeding tube and having his ass wiped by nursing staff and has a catheter helping him take a piss. He has nothing to do with anything anymore thankfully. He's as good as dead thankfully, but more funnily not, so he can live out the rest of his life brain-dead living in filth

[John B]

Pop? What's he got to do with it? The old fool is on his death bed being fed through a feeding tube and having his ass wiped by nursing staff and has a catheter helping him take a piss. He has nothing to do with anything anymore thankfully. He's as good as dead thankfully, but more funnily not, so he can live out the rest of his life brain-dead living in filth

Bruh get a life

[baseline bum]

Pels should try to get salvage value for Zion, get what they can for BI, and limit DJM for the rest of the year (he's back and DTD at this point).

I remember thinking they were stupid for not trading Zion at the 2023 draft. But then again I thought they should have done it to select Scoot.

Guess I'd probably rather have Scoot than Zion though gun to my head.

[Russo21]

Bruh get a life

Truth hurts sir? stop with the Pop nonsense. He's gone and will never be back. He's a braindead old guy who will never have anything to do with the organisation again. Heck he probably doesn't even know what this sport called basketball is at this point, probably can't even remember his dead wife Erin's name. He's gone, done and dusted

[Atl Spur]

Saying anything for attention?

[SanAntonioSpurs23]

Truth hurts sir? stop with the Pop nonsense. He's gone and will never be back. He's a braindead old guy who will never have anything to do with the organisation again. Heck he probably doesn't even know what this sport called basketball is at this point, probably can't even remember his dead wife Erin's name. He's gone, done and dusted

kill yourself got

[BatManu20]

Pels should try to get salvage value for Zion, get what they can for BI, and limit DJM for the rest of the year (he's back and DTD at this point).

Not sure what the Pels are waiting for tbh. Guess they're just praying that he miraculously somehow turns it around and gets/stays healthy and suddenly develops any semblance of a work ethic, but it's not gonna happen. Everything he's shown us over the past 5 years is that he's lazy, selfish, and injury-prone. And diabolically horny too considering how many girl's DM's this guy lives in. They're better off cutting bait and getting what they can for him. But they're the Pels so they likely won't. Tbh New Orleans was such as terrible destination for a guy like him who loves to eat as much as he does. Dude is going to be balloon to 320 lbs within the next 5 years. Calling it now.

[LeBowen]

Not sure what the Pels are waiting for tbh. Guess they're just praying that he miraculously somehow turns it around and gets/stays healthy and suddenly develops any semblance of a work ethic, but it's not gonna happen. Everything he's shown us over the past 5 years is that he's lazy, selfish, and injury-prone. And diabolically horny too considering how many girl's DM's this guy lives in. They're better off cutting bait and getting what they can for him. But they're the Pels so they likely won't. Tbh New Orleans was such as terrible destination for a guy like him who loves to eat as much as he does. Dude is going to be balloon to 320 lbs within the next 5 years. Calling it now.

Last season, Williamson needed to miss fewer than 23 games to avoid his 2025-26, 2026-27 and 2027-28 salaries becoming non-guaranteed. He missed 53 games.

If Williamson passes six "weigh-in-checkpoints" during the 2024-25 season -- to pass, his body fat percentage and weight must add up to no more than 295 (i.e. if he weighs in at 285 pounds, he cannot exceed 10% body fat ) -- then 20% of his 2025-26 salary will become guaranteed.

If he plays in at least 41 games in 2024-25, another 40% of his 2025-26 salary will become guaranteed. If he plays in at least 51 games, another 20% would be guaranteed on top of that. If he plays in at least 61 games (and doesn't violate the weight clause), then his entire 2025-26 salary will be guaranteed.

The above markers are the same for the years that follow. In other words, by being available and passing the weight check-ins, he can guarantee his salary for the next season.
If Williamson has significant issues with his surgically repaired fifth metatarsal in his right foot (i.e. "a fracture or a stress injury to that bone or the healed callus" or "what the contract calls a 'hardware failure' related to the previous injury," per The Athletic) this season, then half of his 2024-25 salary will become non-guaranteed.

It's obvious noone wants him. They'll just cut him loose next summer.

[scott]

What a brutal contract this guy signed

If he hasn't fired his agent by now, he should. Someone should have advised him against this... certainly there was a different option the table that might have had a lower ceiling but would have at least been guaranteed. What a hilariously bad deal for Zion, but can't say he doesn't deserve it.

The only city worse for Zion would be San Antonio

[exstatic]

What a brutal contract this guy signed

If he hasn't fired his agent by now, he should. Someone should have advised him against this... certainly there was a different option the table that might have had a lower ceiling but would have at least been guaranteed. What a hilariously bad deal for Zion, but can't say he doesn't deserve it.

The only city worse for Zion would be San Antonio

Not signing him to that deal would have been an unacceptable risk for the Pels. He was already a major injury risk before his extension. The weight and injuries kind of go hand in hand.

So far, there have been no real consequences for him, other than year being unguaranteed. They’re still paying for him to be fat and out of shape, and to play less than half of their games.

[BacktoBasics]

Not signing him to that deal would have been an unacceptable risk for the Pels. He was already a major injury risk before his extension. The weight and injuries kind of go hand in hand.

So far, there have been no real consequences for him, other than year being unguaranteed. They’re still paying for him to be fat and out of shape, and to play less than half of their games.

The man needs a full time babysitter

[exstatic]

The man needs a full time babysitter

He’s in his sixth year, including the one totally lost to injury. If that’s where you are, and you still don’t have your together, it’s never going to happen. He’s exactly what he will always be.

[baseline bum]

Dude is going to be balloon to 320 lbs within the next 5 years. Calling it now.

You sure he wasn't already there in that Mountain Dew commercial?

[baseline bum]

What a brutal contract this guy signed

If he hasn't fired his agent by now, he should. Someone should have advised him against this... certainly there was a different option the table that might have had a lower ceiling but would have at least been guaranteed. What a hilariously bad deal for Zion, but can't say he doesn't deserve it.

The only city worse for Zion would be San Antonio

His agent probably brought him Pizza Hut to get him to sign.

[BackHome]

The writing was on the wall they should have cut bait a lot sooner when they could have maybe gotten something in return

[baseline bum]

The writing was on the wall they should have cut bait a lot sooner when they could have maybe gotten something in return

I wonder if they got offered anything interesting in the summer of 2023 when he was supposedly on the trade block. I thought they should have traded him to Charlotte or try to work some way to get Portland's pick, but he probably didn't have the kind of trade value to pull that off. I'd only trade for him as a salary dump of Zollins and Keldon and then cut his ass in the summer.

[exstatic]

The writing was on the wall they should have cut bait a lot sooner when they could have maybe gotten something in return

He’s a trap. You play him, trying to increase his value, so he does pretty good and you then want to keep him. Then he misses a half or whole season.

[BatManu20]

This kid was 17 years old a couple weeks ago. Pairing him with Wemby would likely create a dynasty for years to come. I'm all in on the tank boys. #CaptureTheFlagg

[LeBowen]

This kid was 17 years old a couple weeks ago. Pairing him with Wemby would likely create a dynasty for years to come. I'm all in on the tank boys. #CaptureTheFlagg

I know you're probably trolling, but even if we lost every single game for the rest of the season we still wouldn't get top5 odds.
After that, it doesn't even matter.

I just hope Utah gets him, imagine the outrage around the league if Mormons led by Danny Ainge of all people get the next great white hope.

[Mr. Body]

I have a weird feeling about Flagg. He's really good, obviously, but I keep getting Zion or RJ Barrett vibes, other freshmen who were dominant against bad ACC opponents. I watch him play really well and wonder if it will translate fully. Is he actually a franchise player? I hope so. The last white American All-Star in the NBA was like Brad Miller, lol.

[BatManu20]

I know you're probably trolling, but even if we lost every single game for the rest of the season we still wouldn't get top5 odds.
After that, it doesn't even matter.

I just hope Utah gets him, imagine the outrage around the league if Mormons led by Danny Ainge of all people get the next great white hope.

Yea there's zero chance we get Flagg . But goddamn could you imagine he and Wemby together for the next 15 years? Would be nuts.

I'd be fine with Utah landing him. Anyone but Houston or Philly tbh. Or Brooklyn for that matter.

[BackHome]

Yeah, I am still holding out hope that the Hawks pick gets us a top 5 pick this year as we need upgrades in a major way. This team needs so many upgrades as far as our starting unit are concerned.

[jesterbobman]

Both Kirilenko and Marion were all star level impact guys in their time, and he's got that kind of skillset defensively, plus more on ball juice than either of them. He's a better defensive prospect than an offensive one (even with the 42 today).

Also - He's moved up a year, he's dominating guys who are almost universally older than he is, Duke is good (so it's not just empty stats).

[SpursBills]

Don't want to overreact to one game but Cooper Flagg is definitely going to be white Larry Bird tbh


In all seriousness, I don't think he's a generational prospect or anything but he's a pretty strong #1 overall and his age-adjusted production puts him in the top 10 freshmen in the last 20 years. Guys like Mobley and Chet were 1.5 years older than he is as freshmen and he doesn't have the glaring health or character red flags of someone like Zion (weight), Chet/Mobley (build), desire to play basketball (Michael Beasley)

I'd probably put him in the Simmons-KAT-Cade tier as a prospect above Paolo/Kyrie and below Wemby/Zion/AD in the last 15 years

[exstatic]

Don't want to overreact to one game but Cooper Flagg is definitely going to be white Larry Bird tbh


In all seriousness, I don't think he's a generational prospect or anything but he's a pretty strong #1 overall and his age-adjusted production puts him in the top 10 freshmen in the last 20 years. Guys like Mobley and Chet were 1.5 years older than he is as freshmen and he doesn't have the glaring health or character red flags of someone like Zion (weight), Chet/Mobley (build), desire to play basketball (Michael Beasley)

I'd probably put him in the Simmons-KAT-Cade tier as a prospect above Paolo/Kyrie and below Wemby/Zion/AD in the last 15 years

Larry Bird was white, himself.