okc was a secret contender with cp3. they were on rolll before covid messed everything up.
cp3 isn’t getting younger, wemby would appreciate the effort / love winning.
okc was a secret contender with cp3. they were on rolll before covid messed everything up.
Too broad.
"Win now" by doing what? By giving up what picks?
Of course you want to surround Wemby with legit All Star level player(s) but at what cost?
I voted wait but id like to start a winning culture now and wait for the perfect opportunity to strike on good players while not completely mortgaging our future.
Why would the spurs mortgage the future when they have the worst future in the conference? What is there to mortgage if it’s that bad?
Is this really a binary choice? A they/them?
There is no realistic move the Spurs can make to be a contender next year imo. Better to ride out next season and then go all in after the 2025 draft.
It isn't an either or. The Spurs have a load of assets. Trading their own picks for known players is a winning strategy, as is keeping and using the picks they get from other teams.
I was on Team Lauri, but with that ship sailed into the silent night (RIP Lauri), I'm now fully on Team Let It Ride.
Let's see what growth we get from Wemby, Devin and Sochan with some competent vets on the team (no disrespect to Doug and Cedi, but we've upgraded the vet presence on our team significantly via CP3 and Barnes) and see what we got with Castle. Hopefully ATL falters, we get some lotto luck and we're adding another Top 4 pick (or two?) to our roster next year.
If CP3 and/or Barnes prove some primo (not Primo) value, move them at the deadline if they'll return REAL assets (not interested in another late FRP to add more Branhams and Blakes). Can we trade the CHA pick for some far out swaps? Let's start stacking those up as well. If we can add a few more things to the warchest, we'll be even better positioned to make some kind of move (lol, who am I kidding) next year... right?
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Wait, how would we speed up winning, didn't we have the worst future in our conference according to your Nostradamus ass?
Damn, beat me to it
I’ll just toe the line. Let’s see what we have with Wemby and two proven, high end role playing vets. Wemby will be off minutes restriction for most of the season. If we are in play-in/play-off contention come AS break PATFO will explore win now options. Ideally, this is another development year where we garner 2-3 top 15 draft picks and are positioned to flip CP8 for more draft capital if Castle excels early and often.
Vassell/Sochan/Keldon time ticking to show out or be moved in my opinion.
Wemby is so good that just adding 3 competent nba players in Pau. Barnes, and Castle, is going to be enough to have them in the play in, and thus a threat to be the 7 or 8 seed. They are going to get a two fold boost of playing competent nba players while also NOT playing incompetent nba players like Branhim and Wesley.
0 percent chance Devin is moved for anything less than a bonafide top 5 player in the league. His declining contract is to valuable to give up. It is THE contract that 2 years from now allows them to sign a player they financially wouldn't be able to without Devin's declining deal. It's a top 5 contract in the entire nba.
"Winning now" isn't as simple as just saying it. Our team is what it is right now, and there is no move to be made that instantly turns us into a contender in the next year or two (unless we saw massive jumps from Vassell, Sochan, Castle, etc)
That's why it makes more sense to stay patient instead of taking a long shot on a move that sells out or future and just puts us in pretender status.
i'm all for mortgaging the future. spurs the #6 seed rn. wemby just won a silver medal.
the mavs with luka, irving (), and a trade for role players made finals. the mavs even had a weak roster outside of a handful of players.
i don't want to the spurs to keep getting younger. add an all-star, a solid role player and let's go.
i was right about the spurs having the worst future in the conference. they were #1 in the division when i posted that thread, ended that season last in the division if iirc, and were terrible for years.
stop acting like i said the spurs have the worst future in the conference forever
Eh sounds like Scammy Ainge wanted the moon and/or Markanen simply likes country living in Utah for his family.
What All Star is available the Spurs can get? Not schrimpy ATL guy.
i'm down to overpay for brandon ingram. more will be available after the season starts.
spurs didn't tank when they had a healthy duncan. and they're not landing a tony parker or manu ginobili late in the draft.
i think the nuggets are winning it all ... but i'd rather establish a winning culture by losing in the WCFs than in the 1st round.
shoot for the moon. push the chips in. wemby is the man.
Anorexic pot abuser? Or perhaps just dealing with the genes he got.
I think his stats begin to go down next year.
If he pulls out a mini skinny Durbeta career and keeps being above average will into his 30s then good for him. I'll be wrong.
Hard pass.
Now that there is no Markkanen to the Spurs buzz, I vote wait.
So what future can we mortgage to win now if the spurs have worst future in the division? What will it accomplish. The future is worse than four other teams, at the minimum. How can it logically lead to any les? Will all those four teams all win a le in the future?
Agree
Next year's draft is stacked. Be patient for just one more year. Trying to build a dynasty team here should be the goal not a fringe playoff team.
For the millionth time, we can't actually tank with Wemby, especially not with so many terrible teams that are going to blatantly tank from the opening night.
At that point, having 7th or 10th best odds doesn't make much of a difference.
If you want Spurs to get top5 odds, for all intents and purposes you want Wemby to get injured.
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