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Trae young so good.
. They won today against Nets.
Trae with 30 and 12.
Risacher with 7 and 1 in 19mins
Trae young so good.
It'll be interesting to see if the NBA continues the harder policy on foul calls they did in the middle of the season and how that affects Young going forward. He missed almost all of the reffing change with injury.
16 fta tonight. Is the nba back to mega foul baiting or is Young just that good?
I watched a good bit of Nets/Hawks. It felt like the Nets were going to take the game until Claxton got booted for a flagrant 2. Brooklyn had nothing inside without him.
If last night was any indication, the Hawks are going to have trouble staying out of the lottery. They play absolutely atrocious defense. The awful Nets were getting (and missing) one wide open three after another. And when Young is off the court, Atlanta was bad offensively.
This. People are stanning ATL, but they barely beat the most obvious tank team in the league.
It's just one game.
As I said before, just wanting to win games is probably +10 games in W column. Especially since there are so many Eastern teams that actually won't want to win games as the season goes on.
There's no way for them to be anywhere but that 9th-11th seed range just because of those tanking teams.
Agreed on it only being 1 game.
bad teams tend to win more and be more compe ive at the very start of the season
Spurs lost 60 games, started 3-2
Portland lost 61 games, started 3-3
Charlotte lost 61 games, was 2-3 to start
Wizards lost 67 games but at least started 1-1
Hawks have a better roster than that Nets team.
This was my take before the season, too. I get the math.
That said, Brooklyn last year "tried to win" and only got to 32 wins. A bad basketball team is a bad basketball team. A losing team plays losing basketball. I think Atlanta is a loser. Maybe it's just wishful thinking, but I think they are going to struggle to win games even against the tankers. They look that inept on defense.
a lot of Atlanta's ancillary pieces looked good, namely Daniels/Okongwu. Johnson still looks legit. Trae played a fine game. But they still kinda barely got by a bad Nets team. I think with how good some of ATL's individual players looked, it's a matter of time until they get some chemistry going and play at a higher level.
give it time, but the hawks will implode at some point this season.
Not the flex you think it is. BKN want to lose as many games as possible, and has second level strip mined their roster, trading Bridges who they got in the first level strip mine of Kyrie, KD, and Harden out the door. I expect Cam Johnson to be next, probably by the trade deadline. They are literally trying to be the worst team in basketball.
they are definitely as Trae-centric as they've ever been. as nice as Johnson/Daniels/Risacher/Okongwu are, these are all guys that largely rely on Trae. Johnson has his own playmaking ability, but he's not really an initiator like Scottie Barnes or anything like that.
as long as Trae is healthy and doing is thing, he'll keep them above water. without murray, they would be much less resilient if Trae were to miss time. Trae has been a fairly durable player, last year being his worst with the broken hand... not exactly the type of concerning long term injury associated with injury prone guys
32 wins were good for 11th seed in weak East.
There's no way Wizards, Bulls, Nets or Raptors get 32 wins this year. That's already 11th seed pretty much guaranteed for the Hawks.
I guess Detroit is going to be a bit better this year, but I don't think they're better than the Hawks.
Hornets should be in the mix, too.
As I said, 9th-11th seed, I hope I'm wrong, but I don't see any way for them to finish lower.
Pretty much. Atlanta barely made it past a very bad Nets team. Jalen Johnson looks like a nice utility piece. I like where Dyson Daniels is going. Risacher might be okay, but I think he'll be a bad shooter who is mostly just kind of there. They need someone to pick up the slack for Trae and I don't see it. This was a bad sign for them, but it's only one game.
they are really counting on Bufkin taking a step forward this year. their backup PG yesterday was "Vit Krejci" who played for the 11:20 that Trae sat and went -8
Trae also had to play 37 minutes to help beat a very very bad team
Hawks will likely finish at best 9th in the east. 8 teams (Cetics, Knicks, Bucks, Cavs, 76ers, Pacers, Magic and Heat) are clearly better than them. It will take a lot of injuries to one of them to end up behind Hawks.
Hawks current main issue is that they are really bad when Young isn't on the court. Bufkin could have helped them with that but he re-injured his shoulder and could be out a long time.
I’d actually subtract the Heat from your ‘better’ list. They win by being a tight cohesive unit, and I don’t see that happening this year. All Butler has to be is a little unhappy, and they’ll unravel.
They also get to keep their pick if it’s top 14, otherwise OKC gets it.
Butler wants the bag next summer and knows the only thing (aside age/health obviously) that other FO hesitate about is his character.
He'll be the consumate teammate this season
Everyone knows who Butler is right now, and nothing he does this year will change that. When motivated, he’s a good regular season player, and great in the post season. When not motivated, he forces his way out. He’s done that at every stop. He’s also not getting any kind of bag next year at 36 with his history of eventually being a problem everywhere he goes.
Fully agree but with this but with the new CBA he might hit the market at a reduced rate at which point he could be a very intriguing target if we go win now.
Butler just squatted out 3 points in the home opener. It's possible that Miami's refusal to give him an extension was more about them seeing up close that he was getting washed up and less to do with his behavior or at ude or motivation
I personnaly think he's done as a main guy, too much wear and tears.
But he won't settle for that contract wise, so I'm wondering who would take the insane risk to max him out at 36yo
No one. It’s a new age with the second apron, and players have barely started to realize what that means. You can no longer just shovel out cash. No one wants their picks frozen and moved to the end of the round. Players think this will blow over, but I really don’t see it. With past monetary punitive actions, owners just wrote bigger payroll checks, and business went no as usual. This is the first set of penalties that actually made them stop wildly spending in fear of their team being in the wilderness for a decade and unable to rebuild.
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