So Reeves was likely using the Spurs to get the Lakers to match the offer? Did he have any intention to wanting to play for the Spurs, or is it more likely he just wanted to get the Lakers to pay more?
I can't remember, what season was he a restricted FA?
Yeah he was a restricted FA.
Sounds like he was hoping the Spurs would help him drive his price up to LA, but the Spurs had decided on Vassell over Reaves and weren’t going to play that game so Reaves was just left with whatever the Lakers were offering.
Everybody knows that offer sheet would end up in Pelinka's desk the moment you give it to Reave's agent.
Yeah, true. I am sort of glad the Spurs didn't give him an offer sheet just so he could turn around and stay in LA and get more money to do it while tying up the Spurs' cap space. If he wanted to stay in LA that bad, he could take the pay cut. I doubt he really wanted to come here.
one might say he turned a corner
Objectively good tbh
he looks like he's back to 100%, but it's to be seen how he looks in an offense where he's the 3rd or most likely 4th option
Nah, just a series of 10+ flukey games. Just 10 small samples.
If you take away the BKN game, he's shooting .436/.346 in March (this includes today's game against PHI where he shot .438/.500).
His season averages? .436/.352
He's turned the corner of the cul-de-sac where his house is.
Well when you simply exclude a really good performance of course the numbers are worse. Go ahead and take away that game and his worst shooting game of the month and it's .446/.383--not all-world but wayyy better than February. It's improvement.
Which game are you counting as his worst shooting performance of the month?
- If we exclude BKN and the game where he shot the worst from 3 (OKC, .143 on 7 3PA shots), then he is at .435/.365
- If we exclude BKN and the game where he shot the worst overall from the field (SAC, .308 on 13 shots), then he is .447/.356
- If we exclude BKN game and the game where he missed the most shots (12 versus DAL, .455 on 22 shots), then he at .433/.342
- If we exclude the BKN game and ALL THREE of these games, he climbs all the way up to .446/.379
The point of this is... he's not really having a March that is all that different from the rest of his season. He's been pretty much the same guy he's been all year, plus one amazing game.
His defense has improved quite well in the last month or so. Fsr more attentive and better on the ball than early season. He is also impacting off the ball.
His 3P shooting has been up and down but more up than down than before. He still frustrates in some portions of the game but I think he is getting better as the season progresses. There is definitely no reason to consider him as trade fodder before trying him out with a healthy Wemby, Fox, Castle core.
I'd rather just take away all his games and send him to Phoenix or somewhere winning doesn't matter.
This is a predictable trap.
Devin performing around or below league average (which is his norm): "We can't trade him now while his value is low!"
Devin performs well for a short stretch (which is slightly above league average): "We can't trade him now, he's too valuable! We need to see what he can do with [whoever]"
Can't wait to enter Year 6 of the Devin Vassell Discovery Process.
Dude you got those backwards...
I am OK with keeping him but I have no problem including him in a trade if it makes our team better long term
One of the potential positives of tanking is that lesser players like Vassell get the ball more and get to showcase themselves and increase their trade value (potentially).
Vassell in 13 games in March.
19.5 PPG
5.5 RPG
3.5 APG
.487 FG%
.398 3FG% on 7.5 attempts.
.870 FT%
Massive increase in raw stats, and efficiency since a horrific February, and easily better than any other month this season.
Now as Spurs fans we know this is mostly empty calories and low impact stats and his defense is atrocious, but there’s no doubt ye has increased his trade value this month. Hopefully he keeps it up.
Nah, that all hinges on just one good game. Just ask scott.
this dude is ballin' - man i sure hope no one like nico harrison is keeping track or spurs might trade him!
Devin looks more stable on his feet recently.
I think he may finally be back to 100% after the foot injury.
He’s even tried more on defense, but he’s just not good there.
I think part of the problem is that he bulked up a few years ago and became very top heavy.
None of that bulk went to his legs.
His lateral quickness disappeared with that and he sucks on defense now.
If I was his agent I’d get him to slim back down.
He would not only play better but it might reduce injuries.
Challenge: Find a non-tanking team that would have interest in Devin as an actually valuable player and would trade for him.
I went over all the rosters and can't find a single great fit for him. Pistons maybe, but they have Ivey and will probably get a discount this summer due to his injury.
Yeah. Let me ring up the GMs of these teams and get back.
In all seriousness, beating up on Vassell when he seems to have worked on his weaknesses in the early and mid season is futile. He deserves the chance to showcase his improvements in a lineup featuring healthy Wemby and Fox before being dumped in a trade. That is what his March numbers suggest.
You get the point I was trying to make. Look at the rosters and try to find a decent team that needs a traditional shooting guard making $27M and would has players Spurs would want in return.
Haters would say that his March numbers are all the proof you need of him not being a good fit for this roster.In all seriousness, beating up on Vassell when he seems to have worked on his weaknesses in the early and mid season is futile. He deserves the chance to showcase his improvements in a lineup featuring healthy Wemby and Fox before being dumped in a trade. That is what his March numbers suggest.
Castle will clearly be a better player, if he's not better already when you look at both ends of the floor.
You don't want to bench Castle for Devin and playing both of them together with Fox just puts us at an unnecessary disadvantage size-wise.
It can work, but it will never be optimal.
They're obviously trying to redevelop Devin into a off the ball shooter, but he'll always have his Kobe tendencies.
Imo, his optimal role would be the 6th man, I don't really care if his ego can take it.
If that gentleman from your profile picture accepted the 6th man role, so can Devin.
I like Devin. More than most here and I’d love to see him remain a Spur. But he always seems to play better when there’s nothing on the line.
There is no indication that the coaching staff asked Devin to be the 6th man role and he refused. So there is no reason to doubt that he will accept such a role if offered.
You get the point I was trying to make. Look at the rosters and try to find a decent team that needs a traditional shooting guard making $27M and would has players Spurs would want in return.
Haters would say that his March numbers are all the proof you need of him not being a good fit for this roster.
Castle will clearly be a better player, if he's not better already when you look at both ends of the floor.
You don't want to bench Castle for Devin and playing both of them together with Fox just puts us at an unnecessary disadvantage size-wise.
It can work, but it will never be optimal.
They're obviously trying to redevelop Devin into a off the ball shooter, but he'll always have his Kobe tendencies.
Imo, his optimal role would be the 6th man, I don't really care if his ego can take it.
If that gentleman from your profile picture accepted the 6th man role, so can Devin.
I agree with you that Castle must start along with Fox. The question is whether Devin will play the 3 then or if Castle himself will be the wing. And if both situations are sub-optimal should Devin be the sixth man. I think the answer will be available based on whether we land a high lottery pick or manage to get Cam Johnson or maybe pry someone like Derrick White from the Celtics (who want to get below the second apron) and so on. If none of such scenarios pan out, the Spurs can try Devin at an optimum role alongside the Fox-Castle-Wemby core and figure out what could be.
All I am saying that Vassell's play in the last month suggests that being dumped in a trade (unless the Spurs are blown by a great offer) isn't inevitable and that he can be given a chance to thrive alongside the new core.
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