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totally agreed
I wish you would have checked me like that - anybody who can go off the dribble loves guys like you because that is an easy bucket or foul. LOVE IT. I would give you 50.Nice Solidno offense taken.
Implacable, you crack me up...
Yep. I was the guy who played people tight defensively. I never heard more whining than when I had a guy locked up, bodied up on him, and he couldn't get breathing room. Guys who love scoring hate having someone crowd their space.
You aren't even arguing the same thing anymore. The fact is the Miami offense, in order to get Bowen off of Wade, was running screens, sometimes with even 2-3 guys involved, just to get Wade a clean look.
So way back on page 1 when you said Bowen couldn't handle Wade, you were and still are wrong - Bowen couldn't handle Wade + 1-3 players on Miami setting screens for Wade.
There's a big difference, but you wouldn't know this because you've already proven to be the most basketball illiterate person in this thread (and that's saying something).
as far as arguing the same thing - it is impossible to argue the same topic in a forum because there are so many conversations going on at once - topic changes - focus of topic changes - comments etcc
totally agreed
this has to be the most irrelevant thread ever. spurs fans must be bored out of their minds or the most defensive people on the planet.
I did say that and I still think Manu -- when healthy can match up just as well if not better with some players - especially kobe but that is just an opinion - but since you know I said that - then you -- like AMBCHANG also know that I came in here and recognized my error in judgment and my poor assumption of how Bruce would perform this year -- might you have integrity issues too ?
you are right - perhaps we should switch this thread to one discussing how cheap Peter Holt and the SPurs are
totally agree with the 2nd part of your post.
Let's see: Rasho has started 17 of 18 games this season for the defending champions and is averaging 6 ppg, 4 rpg, and 1 bpg. Your guy Jerome, meanwhile, has played in 6 games for the Knicks, has been a net negative for them when on the floor, and has the distinction of being deemed an F- free agent pickup.
Obviously, Rasho is not dominating in the real world, but compared to Jerome James, he's practically all-star-ific!
Yet, everytime you think you can, you continue to beat this dead horse about Bowen being unable to defend great scorers. I don't really understand where you're going with this; it's like you gave a mea culpa, only to continue to hope to find evidence that might suggest that you weren't ever wrong.
There's no lack of integrity in observing what's happening and pointing out disingenous statements.
look at you using latin and legal jargon - are you in law school ? Am I to expect a res ipsa loquitor out of you soon ?
Right. Forgot that I'm talking to a top 10 percenter possessed of a remarkable knack for changing the subject.
Of course, were I to throw out some legal jargon, I'd probably go to the bother of actually spelling the words correctly. Just me, though.
whos to say what he would be doing on the spurs though - at ude reflects al ude - here he would be on a winning franchise - with winners and a diferent mindset - maybe he would be inspired to perform - block some shots - rebound and would play great 0- like many of you have noted bruce has done since arriving. or maybe he would be just normal hovering and Rasho's numbers or even Nazr's -- who can say?
I'd say that the entirety of Jerome James' career to date is proof that he wouldn't even be playing at Rasho-esque levels were he in San Antonio.
you can't agree with part 2 w/o part 1. but whatever i'll practice what i preach and go elsewhere.
There is no mea culpa - I already recognized my fault and error in judgment. There are some ---possibly even including law students such as yourself who claim that bruce can stop anyone and is the best defender on the planet - so when he fails to shut someone down i point it out - bruce had 5 fouls and should have fouled out. I mean - after Mcgrady went down with his injury the game after San Antonio I didn't make a big stink of it -- I still let it be said that Bowen shut him down and injury had nothing to do with it -- and even when Lebron went and had a terrible performance 0 I think it was against the magic a few nights after the spurs I just asked did that make Hedo the new best defender on the planet based on Lebron's performance.
I didnt change the subject I was typing the second post - just wanted to recognize your excellent use of legal jargon you picked up at St. Marys law school ?
bowen should not have fouled out. you are way off there. he should have had 3-4 fouls.
I think you've said enough there to prove my point. Suggesting that you could have pointed to all of the "faults" of Bruce Bowen as a defender, but chose not to isn't particularly indicative of a belief that you erred in your initial conclusion about Bowen's defensive prowess. Rather than seeing proof of the point you claim to have realized, you're looking for evidence to prove your original point.
I have no idea why you're fascinated with the idea that I might be in law school, though. Is that supposed to be some sort of insult?
no i am not trying to defend my original post - I believe that dude is amazing - at his age and still able to do what he does defensively is amazing - my college coach told us defense was 90% pure desire and he has desire. I truly think he is one of the best defenders in the league especially with his versatility.
my point is that you -- among several other apologists in here see with balck and silver colored glasses and find little to no fault with spurs. Although there is some critical analysis this message board is "homer" to a tee.
from what i have seen of FWD's posts, he is anything but a pure spurs apologist. if he wore silver and black tinted glasses his replies to your criticism would consist of "shut up dude spurs rule why is your team the spurs when all you do is talk about bowen" etc etc. regardless, i don't see why you are so shocked to find spurs homers on a spurs board.
implacable doesn't seem to be appeased or pacified.
That's not true at all. You should spend a bit more time reading what I say before you start blasting at me like that. I may not be as deeply critical as, say AHF is about Pop's lack of offensive creativity, or as Marcus is about Holt's wallet, but I'm certainly not some blinded homer who can't see faults where they exist. I happen to think that Bruce Bowen is the best on-the-ball defender in the NBA. I'd likely think that if he played somewhere other than San Antonio. I guess using your logic, you'd call me a myopic homer if I said I thought Tim Duncan was the best player in the game, too?
Indeed. I even took up for him a page or so ago and I've still been branded a homer and had my educational background questioned.
I think Tim Duncan is the best player in the NBA. I do not think Bruce Bowen is the best on ball defender , I do think he is dang good though- top 5 defenders in the league for sure. IMO.
I am not questioning your education - I was asking if you were in law school or a lawyer
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