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Yeah, our defense should really kick it up a notch once Lindsay's back. He's vital to stopping quick guards' (DWade, Manu, etc) dribble penetraton.
I hope people do not act like trolls and bring good takes from fans from all teams
Yeah, our defense should really kick it up a notch once Lindsay's back. He's vital to stopping quick guards' (DWade, Manu, etc) dribble penetraton.
flip's team play great d
LOL
I know injuries happen - I hear about them all the time from other teams. Pistons actually have them as well, but they've been fortunate enough that the starters haven't had to miss any games (although they HAVE played hurt). Yes, losing Manu is big, bigger than us losing our 7th man from last year, but the Spurs are still quite capable of winning this one.
As for class, I guess I have to look back a few posts to see your example of "class" for us "pissed-on" fans. I understand you were responding to the "spurts" crack, but still, you got no lessons to give anybody.
You talk like there aren't any Spurs fans that talk classless smack to Pistons fans. There's plenty of it on this messageboard, not just a inference to hope for injury on one of the Detroit Pistons. Get off the soapbox and realize there's going to be a little smack talk from each side. it's not that big of a deal.
And, by the way, I wrote in another thread that I hope Manu doesn't play because I think his healthy is more important than the Christmas game. I also said that the Spurs were good enough to beat the Pistons without Manu. So, calm down trying to portray "Pistons fans" as "classless" smack talkers. Sure, some of us are. Heck, every team, INCLUDING THE SPURS, have classless smack talkers. Haven't people who post in messageboards realized that yet?? There are no "holier-than-thou" sports fans. It's a myth. And, one smack talking fan doesn't represent the entire fan population of a team, just like one fan who throws a beer and incites a riot doesn't represent all fans.
Here's something else I wrote in another Detroit Pistons thread in the NBA forum:
"If the Pistons lose to the Spurs on Christmas, how will that be a "rude awakening" to the Pistons? The Pistons already know the Spurs are good. They know they are the defending champions. All it takes is for Spurs to play one of their better games and/or the Pistons not to shoot well, and sure the Spurs can beat the Pistons. That won't be some shocking, "rude awakening." You sound like a Heat or Cavs fan trying to talk smack. Pistons respect the Spurs. And, most Pistons fans respect the Spurs too. It will be in no way a "rude awakening" for the Pistons to lose to the Spurs. The Spurs could even blow-out the Pistons, and it won't be a rude awakening. Pistons showed how they can rebound from blowouts against the Spurs, as evidenced by games 3 and 4 of the Finals last year. Whatever happens Christmas Day, there will be no rude awakening. But, I do expect the Pistons to beat the Spurs Sunday, and rather handily as well. But, if not, I won't be surprised whatever the outcome."
One fan that threw a beer? lol I think you need to see the replay. Try 200 fans throwing . Go Spurs Go
One thrown beer incited the riot. Were there dozens, maybe even hundreds, more fans that threw stuff? Yes. Even if I agree that there were 1,000 fans that threw things at the Palace a year ago. If there are only 1,000,000 (million) Detroit fans--which would be a very low estimate--1,000 is still only 0.1% of Detroit Pistons fans.
0.1% of Detroit Pistons fans doesn't represent the other 99.9% of the other Detroit Pistons fans.
woah this is a really long thread
Just as ShawnMichaels doesn't represent the other 99.9% of Spurs fans. Please, keep him.
I can guarantee there are more than .1% of pistons fans that would throw things. I think it is more like 5% that would do it. Still a low number though. I don't see it being any different in any other city when a player attacks a fan.
When you cover all the bases, you can never be wrong.
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It was the one idiot fan that threw the beer that started the whole thing. When a player flies into the stands swinging, it doesn't matter which city you're in, things are going to get very ugly. I have to say though, I felt horrible for the Pacers when I saw the clip of the fans dumping beer and throwing at them in the tunnel. But honestly, what do you expect in such a chaotic situation. People, no matter what city they're from, can be extremely nasty when things get out of hand.
IMO, I blame two people for the brawl. The IDIOT fan who threw the beer and Artest. Yes, Artest was the victim to begin with, but he's still the one who started swinging at people IN THE STANDS. He could of done a dozen other things and the brawl would of never happened.
But that fan... I can think of a few things I'd like to do to him (and I don't think I'm alone here as a Pistons fan when I say that)
It was the one idiot fan that threw the beer that started the whole thing. When a player flies into the stands swinging, it doesn't matter which city you're in, things are going to get very ugly. I have to say though, I felt horrible for the Pacers when I saw the clip of the fans dumping beer and throwing at them in the tunnel. But honestly, what do you expect in such a chaotic situation. People, no matter what city they're from, can be extremely nasty when things get out of hand.
IMO, I blame two people for the brawl. The IDIOT fan who threw the beer and Artest. Yes, Artest was the victim to begin with, but he's still the one who started swinging at people IN THE STANDS. He could of done a dozen other things and the brawl would of never happened.
But that fan... I can think of a few things I'd like to do to him (and I don't think I'm alone here as a Pistons fan when I say that)
what kind of person hurls something at an other person who is atleast a foot taller and stronger than them??
i sure as wouldn't throw something at some one much bigger than me, no matter how angry i am at them.
and ron did foul ben but what was the need to shove his hands in his face?
ben and two fans are to blame, ben should have just sucked it up go on with the game. i've seen worse fouls than that.
When you cover all the bases, you can never be wrong.
I'm generally not in the business of prediction smack talk, then hiding from the boards for a while when I'm wrong. The post you quoted was in response to Rummpd's claim that the Pistons were in for a "rude awakening." If you understand that, you realize my point is that the Detroit Pistons know very well that the Spurs are a great team and are capable of beating them. There was no possibility for a "rude awakening," in my opinion. It wasn't about me predicting what will happen as much as it was responding to his comment.
So, now that you have the context to go along with your patronizing post, you can take my comments for what they're worth ... just one man's opinion.
As for "never being wrong" by covering all my bases ... again, I'm not going around claiming the "Pistons are definitely the better team" or "Pistons will win if they're healthy." I'll say that I expect the Pistons to play well or that they have a good chance to win. But, to go around and adamantly boasting that my team will crush the other or that there will be some kind of rude awakening is just not something I'm interested in posting. I just try to enjoy the games and congratulate whichever team wins. I'm not a soothsayer or a prophet. I'm just a Pistons fan who appreciates good basketball. The Spurs are a great team, and if they beat the Pistons, all the praise and accolades should go to them ... not the fans who predict they would win. When I cover all my bases, I may never wrong, but I'm also never right, so I can't gloat like some fans do. Just a fan. I'll argue facts. I'll leave the predicting smack talk to the rest of you ...
Well, Ben was a bit hot-headed, but a little player on player action is something you see now and then. It's completely normal for a sports game.
Players attacking fans... not so normal.
no comment
coaches were calming him down, but nooo mr.i'm a pistons fan, i'll go ahead and throw a beer at him nothing is gonna happen. done topped it off
Please no more "Palace brawl" discussion ... it's been over a year now.
had it been in the SBC would you have let us live it down?
i understand there was a foul called but ben should have shaken it off and kept on going with the game
A Spurs fan threw a rock at the Detroit Pistons bus after game 7, breaking a window, which could have injured any number of players. How often do you hear that brought up?
Yes, the Palace brawl was an embarrassing incident. Get over it already. Should fans of other teams make fun of the "Alamo?" It's history. It's over with. It's done. Get over it.
true it happened, but it wasn't televised
nope, not really
I can't pin this on Ben, because hot headed player on player squabbles happen ALL the time. We almost had a nice one at the end of the last Lakers @ Heat game, actually. YES, Ben should of shrugged it off. Maybe the brawl wouldn't of happened then. But then again, it wouldn't of happened if Ron hadn't fouled him, if Ben hadn't gone for the basket, or if the whole damn game didn't even happen in the first place. If you want to pin the blame on someone, pin it on the fan. But everyone who got their suspensions after that game deserved them. A lot of innocent fans got hurt, some of them by the players themselves. (like that poor guy that Ron clobbered to start off... if I remember correctly he wasn't the guy who threw the cup)
We're never going to be able to live this down. But everyone has to realize that this can happen anywhere... all you need is a stupid fan and something to set him off. That was really all my original point was.
Putting all that aside, I really enjoy games at the Palace. They're a lot of fun. Mason does a great job of getting the crowd fired up, though I really have to admit I don't like some of the things he does with the player's names (B-B-B-Billups and whatever it is going on with McDyess' name). Also, has anyone noticed that our dancers have a problem with dancing in synch? Kind of funny to watch sometimes.
So, if the brawl happened after the game had already ended and the telecast was done (and thereby not being televised), you wouldn't talk about it?
Yeah right ... nice logic.
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