Pop War: Moby Versus Eminem

[Oh, Gee!!]

Shot thru the heart and you're to blame
You give love a bad name

[Oh, Gee!!]

[SpursWoman]

they both suck

[Yonivore]

they both suck

Each other.

[SA210]

I'll serve your ass like John MacEnroe
If your steps up, I'm smacking the ho
Word to your moms I came to drop bombs
I got more rhymes than the bible's got psalms
And just like the Prodigal Son I've returned
Anyone stepping to me you'll get burned
Cause I got lyrics and you ain't got none
So if you come to battle bring a shotgun
But if you do you're a fool, cause I duel to the death
Try and step to me you'll take your last breath
I gots the skill, come get your fill
Cause when I shoot ta give, I shoot to kill

[TonyMontana]

Crime is crime, and speech is speech. Short of inciting a riot, speech is still free for the time being, but are misogynistic and phobic lyrics crossing an ethical line?

i am an eminem fan, but moby does have a point about the obscene negativatiy towards women in most rap songs, along with the promotion of violence.

rap music preaching ho's and bling and drug use is a detriment to mankind.

where is the outrage that the negative messages in the this music are keeping people mired in mediocrity. chasing pussy. chasing cash. being insecure and having to carry weapons. disrepsecting everyone that tells them what to do. And most often? Cuz their fathers were no where to be found. How sad. But the cycle continues, generation, after generation. And this is for all races people. Ignorance doesn't know skin color. It's universal.


All that said? i will not pretend that i don't listen to it.

i love dre, snoop, biggie, eminem...

but NOW? i'm drawn to Kanye and Mase.

People don't seem to realize that the riches on earth don't mean .

Bottomline? as long as people buy the .
the rappers/producers will make the .

The only thing that matters is the loot when it comes to the entertainment industry.

[bigzak25]

i have come to the realization that myself and all the other rappers out there are Present Day Prophets. It will be upto you to decide which are the true and which are the false ones. Just fyi.

And while i understand what Moby is saying, I thought about it, and he might want to think about taking some responsibility for all the kids dying on X, at all night raves listening to his techno crap... i mean, if he's gonna point fingers at eminem for what other crazy people do...

i mean , Hendrix sang Hey Joe about a man going to kill his ol lady, but people love that song...what gives?

[SA210]

i have come to the realization that myself and all the other rappers out there are Present Day Prophets.

Is this biblical?

[Oh, Gee!!]

i have come to the realization that myself and all the other rappers out there are Present Day Prophets.

stop calling yourself a rapper, it's moronic. However, so are most of your posts.

[bigzak25]

i am, whatever you say i am. kay.

[SA210]

stop calling yourself a rapper, it's moronic. However, so are most of your posts.

or even a prophet.

[bigzak25]

i know...it's hilarious....i'm such a fool, aren't I?

[SA210]

I didn't call u a fool.

[bigzak25]

i know...i called myself one...i'm just an idiot spouting off bull....so pay no attention please... just laugh away...until you realize i speak the truth. then i'll give you a handshake or a hug. You know I love you guys right?

[Oh, Gee!!]

are you on drugs?

[bigzak25]

of course. It's the Good stuff too.

[SA210]

He's on this...

[bigzak25]

you guys crack me up with your funny pictures. really you do.

[SA210]

Give thankx to the Most Holy One,

Dumbya.

[bigzak25]

Dumbya? That's great. I see what you did there....you combined the word 'dumb'

and then, cuz, and this is the genius part...cuz people call him dubya, cuz of his middle initial 'W',

you combined the dumb and dubya, and made dumbya. Wow.

[SA210]

Dumbya? That's great. I see what you did there....you combined the word 'dumb'

and then, cuz, and this is the genius part...cuz people call him dubya, cuz of his middle initial 'W',

you combined the dumb and dubya, and made dumbya. Wow.

You're learning. Any chance this makes it in your album?

[bigzak25]

i'm working on a Good version of American Idiot. I'm sure that will be on there.

I'll give GreenDay all the Money so they can give it the thumbs up.

[SA210]

[RandomGuy]

eh, they're both pussies, but one pop-star accusing another of 'having blood on his hands' for writing lyrics is hilarious.

From what I have read about both of them, this is a bit unfair to Moby.

Moby is a thinker and holds himself to a much higher ethical and moral standard than Eminem ever will.

I will admit to liking one or two of Em's songs, but the vast majority of it represents someone with the emotional and intellectual development of a 13-year old.

One is a guy I would loan money to, or trust to watch my kid, and the other,... isn't.

[King]

1. No one really cares about lyrics, as long someone uses motives of killings.

2. Defending art is like defending a waterfall. Water doesn't care.

I'm not defending Eminem - but in the main article, one line is "In his video, “Stan,” Eminem murders a woman he put in the trunk of a car." I'm just saying that's not what happened in the video - irrelevant as it is in the argument.