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Twin tower ball is dead.
The two Western Conference finalists are small ballers. Go fig.
We need:
1) Veteran back-up point guard with speed (i.e Lindsey Hunter, Speedy Claxton type)
2) Athletic 3 or 4 than can rebound and spread the floor
Not much.
I'm tired of the ing foreigners. It's time to get some American brothas in this mother er.
those guys that the Spurs drafted. They suck worse than Oberto and Rasho.
Twin tower ball is dead.
The two Western Conference finalists are small ballers. Go fig.
We need:
1) Veteran back-up point guard with speed (i.e Lindsey Hunter, Speedy Claxton type)
2) Athletic 3 or 4 than can rebound and spread the floor
Not much.
Speaking of SJax. I read somewhere that the Pacers gonna resign Peja and not trade Oneil. The person they were gonna try to get rid of was SJax.
Barry+Scola for Jackson?
A quick list of big SF that :
- are available via FA or trade (no Nocioni or Deng)
- are quite young (less than 30)
- can help us next year (no project player like sanikidze)
Stephen Jackson (trading block)
Al Harrington (UFA)
Jumaine Jones (UFA)
Jared Jeffries (RFA)
Darius Miles (trading block)
Matt Harpring (UFA)
Corey Maggette (I don't think wa have the trade assets to get him but he is available)
Tim Thomas (UFA)
I think AI is better than tony
in fact if you saw him in the worlds or olympics he was great
only problem with him is that he is kind of old. injuries don;t bother me
but remember when pop wanted sprewell and sprewells was to old now
one of the things about kidd was he was older than tony and that same thing holds true for AI
horry wasn't doing to much this series maybe we over used him in kings series just liek lakers over used him
thats ridiculous. bowen is a one of a kind player and as long as he can do his thing out there i hope he's a spur. he just had a bad shooting night.
Yay! So this is the thread where I can vent out my frustrations where no one will read and make absolutely no sense and might not even be true and take it all back in the morning, right? I love SpursTalk!
I love how a bunch of people either want to fire Pop or retool the entire team because we lost to a 60-win team in a close 7-game series. (That's sarcastic, btw.) I think Pop got outcoached this series, but that doesn't mean firing the guy who, if he didn't lead you to 3 les (which he did, imo), at least didn't screw the team up so bad that they didn't win a le at all. I love how people think that players that barely played the last few games (basically all big men besides Duncan) suck and deserve to be dumped, when they were a big part in winning a championship as recently as LAST YEAR. Pop pretty much played 5 guys to death.
Another thing I love is how the Big 3 is completely faultless and viewed as unmovable. I ain't saying that they should be traded soon, I'm just saying that they're not invulnerable. For one thing, Parker. Maybe I'm just another Parker hater, but he falls for the jumper way too often, can't handle presses, etc. He's freaking talented, but he's not the player you build your team (or your offense) around b/c he doesn't have the selflessness required. (And he's not the guy you should be telling to take 25 shots!) And it's not even his bball skills that bother me the most. Am I the only one who was cringing at his comments being shown during the game? He sounded so y. I know how AJ has been talking about calls, but Parker has been whining just as much about cheap calls and blah blah blah blah. I'm surprised Pop let one of his players complain on record like that. I just wish he'd get an at ude adjustment (and stop rapping), because it's just not the Spurs way.
And I hate that we needed a Josh Howard type of player in this series.
I know hindsight's 20/20. Okay, I'm done. So glad my first post could be here.
i can't believe you guys would want AI, he dominates the ball way too much for anybody else on his team to have a chance. Nobody likes playing with him. Next year he's making 18 million, who do we trade? tony + manu? AI still has 60 million left on his contract and that's 60 more then i'd be willing to spend on a guy who's a me first, team second guy who won't show up for practice. we talking about practice!
Irritational thoughts for the most part. Spurs aren't trading Bruce, Tony, Tim, Manu or Finley.
NVE will retire.
Hopefully Horry will retire (but he won't).
If they can't sign Nazr super cheap, they'll try to sign and trade him.
They'll look at their overseas prospects (Mahinmi, Sanikidze, Javtokas) and see who is ready.
They'll probably consider Scola and if they can't get him here for a reasonable price, then perhaps package his rights in a trade.
They need to get an athletic power forward (Tim is the center on this team). An athletic long 3 to backup Bruce. And a backup point guard.
Beno, Rasho, Nazr, Marks, Horry, Oberto and Brent are all expendable.
The roster won't be overhauled. But it does need to be tweaked.
that was what i was saying about the interntional team. he was shareing the ball. remeber in order to pass you have to have someone worth passing the ball to. there is a reason lebron and kobe dominate the ball they are the best option on their team
Nets are interested in Nazr but are over the cap, i wonder if they'd give up Nenad Krstic or Nachbar. Also, i remember reading that Jerry West likes Nazr as well and memphis has no center under contract next season maybe they'd give up Battier or Mike Miller or maybe even Warrick? Anyway the spurs have alot of options going into this offseason it should be interesting.
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None of those sound too appealing. Did you catch the DAL-MEM series? Icky. I thought Mike Miller was going to walk over to Stack and hand him the Sixth Man trophy. Miller was garbage; Battier is what people were scared Brand would become. Spurs should shoot for Kenyon Martin.
A few names I like.
PG's: Mike James, Speedy Claxton, Marcus Banks, Jason Hart
SF's: Bonzi Wells (too expensive), Jared Jeffries (restricted), Jumaine Jones, Qyntel Woods, Trevor Ariza (restricted), Ndudi Ebi
Centers: Joel Przybilla, Melvin Ely (restricted)
I think one of the problems was we never coudl get dirk fouled out. duncan woudl foul out damp , diop, and then they woudl put in KVH, it was like they would put random scrub on tim before they woudl put dirk. And we had no one else to challenge dirk so he woudl have to stop them or foul them.
Seriously we shouldve have given stephen jackson more money!!!!
trade barry+scrub to pacers for him
get rid of rasho+nazr for young talent
imo we can always goto europe or look around the nba for cheap scrub centers who can rebound or CATCH A DAMN BALL for minimum salary.
i would rather pay stephen jackson 6-7mill a year then waste it on nazr/rasho/orb.
and i dont think sanikidz is the answer for a long 3, he aint no ak47 or showin any signs of a young ak47.
Jason Hart???? No. Bonzi Wells = SG, Spurs have wanted Qyntel Woods for awhile now
doesnt woods have problemz? like with the law n dogz?
bonzi will be lookin at gettin paid
I think we should start investin into long 3 players now like the mavs, who got powell/howard/daniels, they got like 4-5 long 3s or sum , same with the hawks/blazers. we should keep away from guyz who been on scrub teams.
The Spurs just have to get younger. Plain and simple. The team just isn't big enough for all these aging veterans. It's great to have a couple of them, but we have an entire bench full of them here, plus a starter in Bowen.
Seriously... Finley, Bowen, Horry, Van Exel, Barry... None of them under 30.
Why on earth would the Nets want Nazr when they have Nenad playing for a million dollars a season??
Get Younger!
Spurs have come to the crossroads called 'The New NBA.' Look at who's in the WCF now: Phx and Dallas. Two teams that feature fast, young, run-full-throttle styles. Small ball, in other words. And right now, I'd bet big on either of them beating Detroit or (especially) Miami. The big, slow, grind-it-out teams are fast fading into history, since the league decided to outlaw hand-checking on the perimeter and force teams to feature talent instead of brawn. Personally, I applaud it, since I'd rather see more Manus and Marions and fewer Mournings and Ewings.
But Spurs can't really win at small ball, at least not with this aging roster. Or should I say, aging bench. Spurs were supposed to have 4 aces this year: Tim, Tony, Manu, and a deep, veteran bench. Only the 1st three showed up last night.
So what do they do? Either revamp the bench to get more youth and quickness, or figure out how to defend small ball teams with the personnel they have--I dunno, maybe practice a zone? Something that will really slow down the free-wheeling teams?
I"d prefer the youth/quickness change, but I don't think this team has enough contract flexibility to make big changes.
fun full throttle styles? hmm odd that was just what we woudl have implemented had we got Kidd. maybe we wanted kidd because we knew the nba was going to fix the nba to favor that type of game
We need to fix the mental breakdowns. The fact is bungled plays at the end of games and blowing 3 - 4 point leads in the last minute. Free throws have killed us in too many games.
A guy I would like the Spurs to take a good look at this off-season is Devean George. He's a free agent. That guy would be a nice bench player and he's also a nice one-on-one defender. He can knock down the open three and is long/strong enough to defend guys like Dirk and maybe even Amare when he comes back. At 6-8 and 235 lbs he's stronger/taller then Bowen and Finley.
I know he's been a enemy for a long time with the Lakers but so was Horry. He would also be nice in the small ball game at the 4 with Duncan at 5.
Nobody WANTS Rasho. Spurs have been shopping his ass for at least the last year. And Pop not playing him at all in this series didn't exactly help.
Sorry, Speedy and Smith don't play for the Knicks. Nobody else would be dumb enough to make that trade.2. Get rid of Beno - if you lost confidence in him, you'll never get it back. He can play perfect for entire season and make one mistake and you'll again lose all your confidence in him. Let him go elsewhere. (maybe package Beno&Barry for Speedy&Smith?)
Well, if they can get Scola's buyout down ... but is that going to help the speed problem?3. Sign draft picks Javtokas, Scola, Sanikidze.
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