View Poll Results: Who will win Silva or Lidell?

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  • Chuck Lidell

    8 30.77%

  • Vanderlei Silva

    18 69.23%
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  1. 07-12-2006 #1
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    Pretty new to the whole MMA deal but I'm excited about the fight in November so who ya got?
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    I'm not very familiar with Silva but from what I understand he is on bad ass dude
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    Quote Originally Posted by judaspriestess
    I'm not very familiar with Silva but from what I understand he is on bad ass dude
    http://youtube.com/watch?v=JTHo0uaAbEY
    http://media.putfile.com/silva-highlight
    http://youtube.com/watch?v=c37AENeFA2Y

    http://media.putfile.com/Wanderlei-Silva-Vs-Rampege
    http://youtube.com/watch?v=vRRynD-wjT0 (Rampage Silva 2)

    If you've never ordered a MMA PPV, order the Pride PPV Sept 10th...it's the final round of the open weight grand prix. 4 fighters left, have to win twice on the same night to win the le.

    Silva (MW-LHW)
    CroCop (HW)
    Barnett (HW)
    Big Nog (HW)

    Shogun Rua (top 3 LHW in the world with Silva and Liddell) is also on the card in a non-tourny fight. Unlike UFC (normally), you'll get to see the whole card (8 or 9 fights)...

    This was Silva's last fight in the tourny...against a HW that's nearly impossible to KO...
    http://youtube.com/watch?v=K17NXteK_Zw
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    I'd say Chuck IF he makes it past Babalu who often submits his comp.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Mr Dio
    I'd say Chuck IF he makes it past Babalu who often submits his comp.
    So in your opinion, is Babalu or Silva a tougher opponent for Chuck??
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    I'd say current day Babalu.
    That is my opinion.
    Who will win?, I don't know. But I more than likely will bet on both fights.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Mr Dio
    I'd say current day Babalu.
    That is my opinion.
    Who will win?, I don't know. But I more than likely will bet on both fights.
    Since you seem to always refer to betting lines...

    Give me your opinion on lines for:

    Chuck - Babalu
    Chuck - Silva
    Silva - Babalu
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    Quote Originally Posted by LEONARD
    Since you seem to always refer to betting lines...

    Give me your opinion on lines for:

    Chuck - Babalu
    Chuck - Silva
    Silva - Babalu
    What did you want to know? What the odds might be? I can look them up but if they are favorable IMO then I'd take them. For instance, Tim S was +235(or something, depends who you go thru) & I failed to take him til it was down to +195 BUT, I did take him & the experts who had Tim as a dog were wrong. We all are at times. I also took Joe S @ +175.

    I can only give my opinion since I can't tell the future. If I could tell the future I'd be buying 1 single lottery ticket every drawing.
    I do refer to betting lines about 99% of the time.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Mr Dio
    What did you want to know? What the odds might be? I can look them up but if they are favorable IMO then I'd take them. For instance, Tim S was +235(or something, depends who you go thru) & I failed to take him til it was down to +195 BUT, I did take him & the experts who had Tim as a dog were wrong. We all are at times. I also took Joe S @ +175.

    I can only give my opinion since I can't tell the future. If I could tell the future I'd be buying 1 single lottery ticket every drawing.
    I do refer to betting lines about 99% of the time.
    I'm not asking you to predict the future...there are no lines out yet of course.

    I'm asking you to tell me what you think the lines MIGHT be from Vegas...as a gauge to tell me what you think about the matchups / fighters...

    Sylvia and Stevenson were both solid underdog picks. I haven't bet on MMA since I put a bunch on BJ Penn over GSP as the underdog...
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    the thread starter is gay
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    Quote Originally Posted by NorCal510
    the thread starter is gay
    devastating.
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    I'm going with Liddell. o Ortiz was the man in UFC until Liddell dismantled him. Silva is a bad man, but I don't think he's bad enough.
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    Chuck is not that great. I don't like Silva, but he will bury Lidell.
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    From what my cousin tells me, who has been in kickboxing matches, and has experience in jiu jitsu, karate, and muay thai, Chuck doesnt stand a chance. He said that wanderlei is too strong, in much better condition, and is the best striker pound for pound in MMA.
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    Quote Originally Posted by LEONARD
    I'm asking you to tell me what you think the lines MIGHT be from Vegas...as a gauge to tell me what you think about the matchups / fighters...

    I prefer to look @ a potential wager as who IMO will win.
    IF, that side I like is a dog I then see if they are enough of a dog so that I may seriously consider taking them.

    Exact lines/odds IDK.
    I think Babalu will be a dog to Chuck & Chuck a dog to Silva.
    How much of a dog IDK. I do hope that the dogs are heavy dogs though.
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    Quote Originally Posted by tsb2000
    I'm going with Liddell. o Ortiz was the man in UFC until Liddell dismantled him. Silva is a bad man, but I don't think he's bad enough.

    If Chuck wins out the next 2 he might go vs o in Feb '07.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Mr Dio
    I prefer to look @ a potential wager as who IMO will win.
    IF, that side I like is a dog I then see if they are enough of a dog so that I may seriously consider taking them.

    Exact lines/odds IDK.
    I think Babalu will be a dog to Chuck & Chuck a dog to Silva.
    How much of a dog IDK. I do hope that the dogs are heavy dogs though.
    I'd expect Babalu to be around +200 to 250.

    I think Chuck might be favored over Silva...Vegas' goal is to get half of the money on one and half on the other. More people know Chuck in the US and would tend to pick him I would think. That could sway the lines some...at least where the lines start anyway...

    I know what you mean about dogs...I usually pick 2 or 3 that I feel good about and go with them. Can't really make money on o when he's -500 vs Ken...unless you want to put up an assload and hope something freaky doesn't happen...

    I haven't bet on any fights since Penn / GSP though...Penn was too good to pass up as a dog (+135 I think)...dominated the 1st rd, and did nothing the next 2. I was HOT...

    Quote Originally Posted by Mr Dio
    If Chuck wins out the next 2 he might go vs o in Feb '07.
    It was in o's contract that his 3rd fight was a le fight (Forrest, Ken, Chuck) but I guess they'll have to re-work that now that Silva is in the mix. o wants to fight somebody in the Oct / Nov timeframe then get a le fight around the Super Bowl...
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    IF Babalu is indeed around that neighborhood I am jumping on it.

    I like o very much as a fighter BUT, I think he should have to fight a fighter as highly regarded as Silva (or as close as possible) to earn a le shot.

    Who knows, maybe Chuck won't have the belt next month.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Mr Dio
    IF Babalu is indeed around that neighborhood I am jumping on it.

    I like o very much as a fighter BUT, I think he should have to fight a fighter as highly regarded as Silva (or as close as possible) to earn a le shot.

    Who knows, maybe Chuck won't have the belt next month.
    I hope Chuck wins, but wouldn't be shocked if Babalu pulled it off...

    I don't think o will fight a top level guy. Who?? Maybe somebody like a Jason Lambert or Keith Jardine. I'd like to see o vs Rashad Evans...I'm tired of seeing his perfect record and watching his boring ass fights. I'd love to see o put a pounding on him...
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    o does have it in his contract to fight Chuck again. It was the only way they could get him to sign it.

    For the record, I'd love to see Babalu take Chuck to the ground and submit him, but I don't think it's gonna happen.
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    Quote Originally Posted by cecil collins
    Chuck is not that great. I don't like Silva, but he will bury Lidell.
    i'd like to know if you have ever seen chuck fight? saying that silva would bury him is a stupid remark and will never happen
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    So what you're saying guys is if this Babalu beats him there will be no Lidell-Silva showdown?
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