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    While it's crazy to think that Rudy Fernandez could last until the end of the first round (and crazier to think that the Spurs would pass on him...I WOULDN'T!).
    I think he's dropping because it looks like he won't be available for at least a year. Teams are wary of selecting foreign guys with buyouts and don't want to be in a Fran Vasquez or Carlos Navarro situation.

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    I think he's dropping because it looks like he won't be available for at least a year. Teams are wary of selecting foreign guys with buyouts and don't want to be in a Fran Vasquez or Carlos Navarro situation.
    Or Luis Scola for that matter...

    But once they get them over here they're afraid that they'll be more Darko and less Dirk (well, pre-Orlando Darko at least). There are a lot of concerns for drafting internationals with unclear buyouts.

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    Whoa...Draftexpress has updated.

    They have Koponen going 29th to the Suns. Has anybody heard anything about the Suns promising him he'll be a first rounder?

    Also, Byars is listed as going 31st. And McGuire goes mid-late first as well.

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    htf did noahs stock drop so much

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    Only Hibbert is out, Green will stay in the draft.

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    http://www.examiner.com/a-743960~Geo...to_school.html

    Georgetown's Green remains in draft, Hibbert to return to school

    May 23, 2007 2:19 PM (1 hr 28 mins ago)
    By JOSEPH WHITE, AP

    WASHINGTON (Map, News) - Jeff Green is staying in the draft. Roy Hibbert is staying put.

    The juniors who led Georgetown to the Final Four are going their separate ways. Green announced Wednesday that he will keep his name in the NBA draft, while Hibbert said he will withdraw his name and return for his senior season.

    "Just sitting down with my family and coach, I feel like we came to a decision that I should stay in this draft, and it would be the best thing for me after the season that the team had and that I had," said Green, the Big East player of the year. "I'm in a good position to go pretty high in this draft."

    By staying in the draft, Green is leaving behind a shot at winning a national championship and is forsaking his long-stated goal of playing four years at Georgetown. With Green and Hibbert, the Hoyas might have entered next season as the No. 1 ranked team.

    Green was selected as most outstanding player of the NCAA East Regional as the Hoyas reached the Final Four for the first time in 22 years. The 6-foot-9 forward has a versatile team-orientated game that should serve him well in the pros.

    Green led Georgetown in scoring (14.3 points) and was second in both rebounding (6.4) and assists (3.2). However, he sometimes lacks aggressiveness: He took only five shots in the Final Four loss to Ohio State, further evidence that he doesn't yet know when to stop being the team player and take over the game.

    Hibbert also isn't a finished product, but he has come a long way since he was a clumsy freshman. He led the Hoyas in rebounds (6.9), averaged 12.9 points and blocked 90 shots this season. A 7-foot-2, he will eventually be a coveted possession in the NBA, where big, traditional post players are becoming harder to find.

    "I said to myself, 'Do I really want to go in the draft and sit on the bench?'" Hibbert said. "My heart was here."

    The pair submitted their names as early entry candidates last month and have spent their time since then discerning their draft value. If anything, they've learned that the draft is far from a predictable science: Some mock drafts had Green going in the top 10 but not Hibbert, some had it the other way around, while others had both among the first 10 selections.

    The draft is June 28, and Green has until June 18 to withdraw his name. He said his decision is not "set in stone," but he also said he is about to start the process of selecting an agent. If he hires an agent, he will be ineligible to return.

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    Whoa...Draftexpress has updated.

    They have Koponen going 29th to the Suns. Has anybody heard anything about the Suns promising him he'll be a first rounder?

    Also, Byars is listed as going 31st. And McGuire goes mid-late first as well.
    DX also has Pruitt going in the mid-second round, while ESPN has him going to the Spurs at 28. Again, all of these mocks are volatile because there's too much guesswork involved at this point. As teams begin bringing players in for workouts, those websites and their insiders should get a beat on certain teams' favorites.

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    htf did noahs stock drop so much
    I think it was a bit high to begin with, since he was in the #1 conversation for 2006 until he decided to stick with school. But, I also think that his stock has dropped for two reasons:

    1. There are simply a number of more talented players in this draft.

    2. Scouts had another year to critique his flaws and see whether he would raise his game to another level, which I'm not sure he did.

    I think with Noah, you get what you see.....a hard-working, fiery compe or with great defensive intensity who will clean up the boards on offense and defense and run the floor like a mad man, but a guy who will ultimately never be your primary or even secondary offensive option...a guy that may average double-digit rebounds, but never double-digit points.

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    Only Hibbert is out, Green will stay in the draft.
    Interesting on Hibbert, only because I think the latest he goes is 11, but he had mentioned in the past that he thought he could be a top 3 pick....alot of confidence in himself, but with his size and ability it might not be unfounded.

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    Joakim Noah... they're just not that into you, dude.



    What was stunning about Noah was that he hadn't improved his game at all in one year. Not a whit. He hadn't developed a jump shot, post moves... nothing. That's astonishing for a player that age who purports to love the game.

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    Remember DX's mock draft is not set for team needs yet.

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    Joakim Noah... they're just not that into you, dude.



    What was stunning about Noah was that he hadn't improved his game at all in one year. Not a whit. He hadn't developed a jump shot, post moves... nothing. That's astonishing for a player that age who purports to love the game.
    that my fellow posters will be why he will fall

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    Mr. Body's Mock. Here's my DX mock for anyone who's interested.

    I think PHAT is right. The Spurs should have their pick of some mid-tier shooting guards with their #28.

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    I don't really pay too much attention to mocks until after the draft camp. Stocks tend to solidify after that, but having 28 and 33 makes it a little more interesting to zero in on that tier.

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    Sice the Trailblazer's now own the #1 pick, the Spurs should probably give consideration to trading their first 2 draft picks for Zack Randolph. Big, powerful, raw, but a lot of ability. Rumor is that Portland will try to trade him.

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    Nice first post.


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    nice mock mr.body

    all can change with the workouts ....

    does somebody knows when exactly the teams starts their workouts ??


    For DAINTX , i also think that portland will probably look to trade randolph but i think it will be difficult for the spurs to offer someting good for him exept picks ....
    i like randolph and an association with TD won't be bad

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    Our draft picks aren't enough to get Randolph and any players that we would have to include in a deal would be too much for a guy whose high school is constantly afraid that he will check the paper one day and see that Zach has killed somebody.

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    Private team workouts start after the NBA pre-draft camp on May 28 that goes on until May 31st(?). So teams can start working out draft prospects privately afterwards.

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    DraftExpress statistical PG evalution.
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    NBAdraft.net has the Spurs taking Rodney Stuckley a combo guard from Eastern Washington.

    He sounds like another Antonio Daniels

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    NBAdraft.net has the Spurs taking Rodney Stuckley a combo guard from Eastern Washington.

    He sounds like another Antonio Daniels
    I never take nbadraft.net's mock drafts serious....not even on draft night.

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    Mr. Body's Mock. Here's my DX mock for anyone who's interested.
    I guess your assuming hibbert goes back to school, right? No way do I draft a back up pg with my #1 pick. I say either SG/ SF with #28 and a SF/PF with #33. If you want to gamble with #58 so be it. How long do you guys a quality back up pg (if we drafted on) would stay with team, possible 3-4 years (however a rookie contract is) and bolt due to TP getting most of the minutes. Our back up pg will come via free agency, stay with the team 2-3 years and leave, thats just the way it is in the NBA. This the year we get our future SG and SF, get one year under their belt before possibly stepping in for bowen, barry, finley in 2008 when all of there contracts expire!!

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    I don't think we can really pass on a guy like Rudy Fernandez. Unless somebody like Acie Law or Thaddeus Young slips to us of course.

    But you're right. We will have a huge hole at the 2/3 in about a year and all we have at the moment is James White to fill that hole. One of those late round wings is probably a very wise draft choice.

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    I guess your assuming hibbert goes back to school, right? No way do I draft a back up pg with my #1 pick. I say either SG/ SF with #28 and a SF/PF with #33. If you want to gamble with #58 so be it. How long do you guys a quality back up pg (if we drafted on) would stay with team, possible 3-4 years (however a rookie contract is) and bolt due to TP getting most of the minutes. Our back up pg will come via free agency, stay with the team 2-3 years and leave, thats just the way it is in the NBA. This the year we get our future SG and SF, get one year under their belt before possibly stepping in for bowen, barry, finley in 2008 when all of there contracts expire!!
    He really did.

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