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DX also has Thaddeus Young saying he'll probably drop out if he's not headed for a top 15 pick.
On Terry, I always thought this kid would do well in workouts and get someone to fall in love with him. I think there's far too much talent in this draft for him to sneak into the late first round, but I could see someone taking him in the early second (Spurs?).
He's a great athlete, good scorer, and underrated defender. His main issue is that he's not cognisent of everything that's happening on the floor and he tends to stand around at times...things that could be coached out of him, IMO.
DX also has Thaddeus Young saying he'll probably drop out if he's not headed for a top 15 pick.
!!! You just killed the thread!!![/oldschool]
but coaches are currently busy to coach the same things out of James White
about T.Young.
he would be well adviced to stay for another year, he might have the chance to be even a top 5 pick next year.
but for the Spurs this would be bad news like every SF who withdraws.
I'm not sure if he could make the transition to SF, at least as far as the Spurs' needs at that position are concerned. For one, he's 6'10", and even though he appears to have pretty nice handles and some quickness for a big, he's not the type of swing man who can D up positions 1-4 on the floor. I didn't watch any VSU games this past year, and the highlights I saw posted here obviously only show the "exciting" defensive plays and don't cover how quick he rotates, how good his lateral movement is, or how well he stays in front of a driver. It appears as if he has a real quick trigger on his straight-up jumps, which is great if you're a big defending a bunch of undersized DII ninnies, but is pretty useless if you're d'ing up quick perimeter guys like Allen, Carter, Kobe, etc. That said, he'd probably be amazing matched up against Dirk; he's got the height, length, quickness, jumping ability, and defensive mindset to give Dirk fits. Unfortunately, I think he might be a little too small to be an effective NBA big man (he's nearly as athletic as a Marcus Camby, but a little shorter and a LOT lighter), but too tall and slow to be an effective SF for the Spurs. I think he'd be a good offensive small forward for another team, but I'm not sure if he'd be able to live up to the comparisons that are being made to a point forward like Diaw or Odom; I don't think his handles are that good, he's too light for the "forward" part, and too tall for "point" part.
This guy has a chance in the NBA, but I don't think he fits the Spurs or their needs well at all.
From DX
Some impressions about hill , tucker and terry
Herbert Hill, 6-9, Senior, Power Forward, Providence
Hill looked like a natural in the post-drills that Grover ran him through on both days, showing a smooth jump-hook shot, text-book footwork, fantastic touch around the basket, and the wherewithal to find the net regardless of where he was around the paint. He’s a very impressive guy to watch in this kind of setting, as his fundamentals are clearly excellent. Hill’s shooting is still a bit of a question mark, as his mechanics are unorthodox—featuring a high, but inconsistent release point, although pretty nice touch. He was a bit streaky in the drills we saw.
In the five on five, Hill looked great on offense and just average on defense. He hit a couple of face-up jumpers from 15-16 feet out, but was at his best with his back to the basket in the post going into his phenomenal turnaround jumper. He’s got a real old-school game, with great hands, timing and footwork and a superb feel for pivoting and scoring in the post.
Defensively, Hill blocked some shots (again showing great timing), but struggled a bit in terms of his lateral quickness. He gave up way too much space to Shaun Pruitt in the post, and didn’t do a very good job rotating over when guards slashed their way into the paint. Providence played a lot of zone in college, so it was a little bit tough to evaluate this part of his game on tape, and there is clearly now an adjustment period for him. He would obviously benefit from bringing his intensity level up a notch in terms of the energy he shows, since NBA teams will want to see how he projects as a guy they bring off the bench in short spurts rather than the centerpiece role he played in college. Hill will be playing at the NBA pre-draft camp this upcoming week, so there is a lot he can show there to mitigate these kinds of concerns. He needs to be a beast there.
Reyshawn Terry, 6-8, Senior, Small Forward, North Carolina
Terry only made it in for the 2nd day of workouts because of his graduation ceremony in Chapel Hill. What we did see in the short time we had to evaluate him left a great taste heading into the Orlando pre-draft camp, though.
Terry is basically the prototype for what an NBA caliber small forward should look like. He has excellent size, a great frame, nice strength, good quickness, and plenty of fluidity to his movements too. On top of that, the trainers here have helped clean up the footwork on his shooting mechanics considerably, to the point that he no longer flails his body around and instead sets his feet neatly with good balance and gets off a nice looking shot. It indeed fell with some solid consistency from what we saw. His ball-handling skills still need some polish, but it’s not hard at all to envision him having some excellent workouts after the pre-draft camp, as we talked about yesterday. He can help himself in Orlando considerably by playing great perimeter defense and knocking down his shots when given the opportunity to do so. Everything else beyond that would be gravy as far as his future role in the NBA is concerned.
Alando Tucker, 6-5, Senior, SG/SF, Wisconsin
Like Terry, Tucker was only here for the 2nd day of workouts--and from what it looked like, he must have ac ulated some serious rust in the 3-4 days he missed. Tucker’s shot didn’t fall for him at all today, hitting probably less than half of his shots with his feet set, and considerably less while on the move. He has a fairly slow release on his shot and plenty of wasted motion, putting a little hop in his jumper that does not allow him to get a consistent release point since he often shoots it while on the way down.
On the positive side, his ball-handling skills looked a lot better than we recall at Wisconsin, although like in Young’s case, these are ball-handling drills we’re evaluating him off of, not a compe ive setting.
Tucker is very athletic, with a good physique and an average wingspan. His credentials in college speak for themselves, so It’s not all that surprising that his agent decided not to let him play at the pre-draft camp in Orlando, since scouts should have seen everything they need to know already evaluating him over the past four years. He projects as a solid role-player in the pros, but it remains to be seen just how high he will get drafted at this point.
here's the full article with other players like young , wright...
http://www.draftexpress.com/viewarticle.php?a=2078
Con, how may forwards or guards do you think can really guard positions 1-4? I can think of bowen and marion only right now, but my point is it is very rare to find a player like this, esp. in the draft. This guys offense is ahead of his defense from what i've seen and read, but then again most players who come to the spurs are the same way. I will not say he will be a legit SF but the guys got skills and the spurs need to get a closer look, cause he will proably be there at #33.
Re Wyatt: While the video is only highlights and doesn't show the ups, I was impressed by:
1. Ball handling including a neat crossover dribble and drive along the baseline.
2. Shooting--a big guy that uses the backboard for outside jumpers reminds me of a pretty good player but I can't place the name right now.
3. Very mobile and some shot-blocking skills. Hard to tell about lateral movement but he looks like he might be a pretty good defensive player for a big man.
4. Size--at 6'10' and with some room to grow he might be pretty versatile along the front line.
He'd be worth our last pick maybe or bringing into camp if not drafted.
Well, I'd argue even that's not really true. Bowen can't handle legit 4s in the post and while Marion won't get embarrassed by many guys, legit 1s and legit 4s are both going to put up some numbers on him.
legit 1's and legit 4's are going to put #'s on everyone in the NBA!!Its not about stopping a player but making that player work for 48 minutes.
Zabian Dowdell, Virginia Tech senior point guard, looks very good to DX in workouts. Has great size (6'3"), wingspan, great handles, good defense.
http://www.draftexpress.com/viewarticle.php?a=2083
I'm not talking about all-star 1s and 4s, just guys who are truly the size/speed for the position.
For example, Bruce can make any 1, 2, or 3 in the league have to work for their points, but even a guy like David West (not even a top 10 power forward) would be a rough match-up for him on the low block.
Marion, meanwhile, can make most wings work hard for what they get, but will also struggle against true post 4s and many 1s will give him problems with their speed.
It was funny in the Suns series to hear the broadcasters talking about how great it was that Marion could guard any player on the floor. Now, Dantoni would match him up with any player on the floor, but is it really that great an accomplishment when Parker and Duncan were doing whatever they wanted with him? (and yes, I'm well aware that Parker and Duncan are tough match-ups for anybody)
We're in an era of extremely poor broadcasting. ESPN's lowest common denominator/pretty faces approach. Used to be guys would do certain teams for years and years, and be quite knowledgeable. Now it's BSPN.
That comparison doesn't make much sense at all, but if we can get an undrafted guy to average 1.25 blocks a game in 13 minutes off the bench, that's worth at least a summer league invite.
Add to that the fact he can shoot from the outside....
....and is 6'10" with some handles....
....and played his best games against the best teams on his schedule....
....and there's like one tall SF available outside the lottery -- also at the very end of the draft....
Why not?
There are a lot of PGs big enough to play SG in this draft : Stuckey, Critenton, Pruitt, Reynolds, Koponen, Dowdell..
I hope Spurs will draft one of them with the 28/33 if they don't have another plan for the backup PG spot.
It makes plenty of sense: the guy who gets vastly overrated because few people have ever seen him play, but who 'seems' to have talent out the wazzoo. He's like a god on the message boards.
That comparison doesn't make much sense at all, but if we can get an undrafted guy to average 1.25 blocks a game in 13 minutes off the bench, that's worth at least a summer league invite.
Add to that the fact he can shoot from the outside....
....and is 6'10" with some handles....
....and played his best games against the best teams on his schedule....
....and there's like one tall SF available outside the lottery -- also at the very end of the draft....
Why not?
Bobby Brown, too. Aaron Brooks is probably too small. Here's hoping one of them falls to 33 - likely one will.
I would take God way before #58.
I'm not saying Wyatt's not a bad pick late in the draft, but some are starting to peg him for the late first.
Nah, he'd have to have a great Orlando camp to move up that much. I think he got injured at Portsmouth and didn't play all the games there.
I just think skillwise he's ahead of where our previous SF conversion projects were when they were with the Spurs -- Sharrod Ford, Jamar Smith -- and I even think Smith would have been fine for spot duty. The important thing is just to have a guy like that on the team.
Mackinnon trying to crack the big time
The National Basketball League's most valuable player Sam Mackinnon is preparing for his shot at a place in the NBA.
Mackinnon has secured work-outs with two teams still in the NBA play-offs - Cleveland and San Antonio - and could also attend camps in Miami and Toronto.
Mackinnon won the NBL's major awards and a NBL championship with Brisbane this year and says he is confident he can compete in the United States.
"You get to play against a few guys around the world in world championships and you think if they're in the NBA, maybe I might have a shot of sneaking in there," he said.
"It's about timing and now's the right time for me to give it a go. I just need to find a team that needs a 30-year-old white guy who can do a bit of everything.
"All you need is that foot in the door and if I do well at a camp scenario I could get invited back to a veterans' camp or just go for one of those spots.
"There's 15 spots in every team and I'd like to think that I could make one of those spots on an NBA team."
Not really draft news, but wanted to bump up this article!!
some draftcamp notes about players Spurs might be interested in.
difficult to say, if Spurs fans should be happy about a great camp of McGuire, or a bit scared that he might play himself out of our draft range.
I know that not many like the idea of drafting Dudley, but look at Oberto's impact and then tell that the lack of athleticismn is a reason why a player can't succeed with the Spurs.
Dudley might turn into a poor man's Shane Battier, what should be enough to find a place on the Spurs bench.
(I don't think he could ever be our starting SF, but a usefull 15-20 minutes bench player)
Draft X already has McGuire going a few picks ahead of our 28th. Too bad if true. But they have Byars dropping badly.
I wish they would start aligning their picks with the needs of the teams so we'd get a better idea of what the actual draft might look like.
I can see a team like the knicks taking mcguire with there 1st. I agree with you on these mock drafts and think once june begins these drafts will become a little more realistic..
McGuire to the Knicks seems likely, but I'm hearing they're as likely to deal out the pick with a contract, since they're stacked with youth.
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