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This will make me angry...very, very angry.
DX and nbadraft reports on the Orlando pre-draft camp very interesting.
More I read, the more it seems a cosmic certainty Jared Dudley will be a Spur next year.
This will make me angry...very, very angry.
Interesting TrueHoops post about role players and draft camps: http://myespn.go.com/blogs/truehoop/...ar-System.html
I've been thinking about this lately. First, I disagree with the premise somewhat: Elson, Bowen, Oberto, all these guys would be terrific in draft camp scrimmages. They'd be close to dominant. Horry wouldn't stop being 6'10", a good shotblocker and rebounder, and terrific outside shooter. Vaughn would lock some 20 year old down and dish out 8 assists.
But the point is more that draft camps rarely show who will be the best role players. They simply aren't the best scenarios.
Every year we Spurs fans get all romantic over high fliers and super athletes and guys who can score everywhere on the floor, these great doomed prospects or guys we'll never be high enough to draft, when we're simply not that team. We're the team that will more likely draft Jared Dudley and Arron Afflalo and call it a day, ready for another deep run into the playoffs. We might need to get used to the idea.
Actually we're the team that is more likely to trade our picks away and sign someone over 30.
Damn it I just realized the Orlando pre-draft camp games are on NBATV
That's good for me. Sorry timvp.
The spurs will draft at least one player who makes the roster, but i wouldn't hold my breathe for more than this. Our draft was last year when the spurs picked up white and butler. These are the guys who will possible fill out the 12 man active roster for next year.
Whil the spurs may draft someone who makes the roster it won't be the roster
for 2007-2008.
WHite
Butler
Ely
Whose leaving
Horry?
Beno-I Hope
This may be the year where the Spurs can move up in the draft-
for a BU Point guard/SF
Replace Dudley with Demetris Nichols and add a flier on James Hughes, the Northern Illinois center, with the last pick and that's as good as it gets, IMHO.
Reportedly an NBA coach called James Hughes "awful."
Maybe it was Mike Brown or Flip Saunders who said that.
I just thought he might be worth a shot, but he'd be Elson at best. I haven't seen anybody throw anything out there for the 58 spot. Not much you can do there, although we got lucky once with a foreign guard at the end of the 2nd round.
That's honest to god not a bad draft (as long as Afflalo is actually 6'5 and not 6'3 like I heard once). If this draft was ranked by basketball "players" and not talent or potential both would be in the top 5.We're the team that will more likely draft Jared Dudley and Arron Afflalo and call it a day, ready for another deep run into the playoffs.
why dont we trade our last 2nd round pick for portlands 2 last 2nd round picks which are consecutively
it will take quite some work to convice people here on this board, that they like the idea of the Spurs drafting Dudley.
maybe the notes about his performance yesterday helps a bit:
and from another article we learn that Dudley does know the perfect playce for him will be SA.Jared Dudley, 6’7, SF/PF, Boston College
13 pts, 8 reb, 1 ast, 1 stl, 1 to, 5-7 fg’s, 3-3 ft’s, 0-1 3-pt
Jonathan Watters
No, Jared Dudley doesn’t appear to have a natural NBA position. It doesn’t look like he’s worked much on his physique since the season ended. But after today’s phenomenal performance, it is fairly obvious that he will find a place in the NBA. His predecessor at Boston College, Craig Smith, had a phenomenal year in Minnesota and Dudley brings much of the same court savvy and experience to the table.
Dudley positively impacted the game nearly every time he touched the ball, whether it was finding teammates with beautiful passes (the 1 assist he was credited with in the box score is flat out wrong), hitting the glass with reckless abandon, always making the right decision on whether to take off up the court on his own or fire off a crisp outlet pass, or knocking down the open jumper with ease. Dudley is clearly on a different level in terms of his understanding of the game, and even though his team didn’t always get him looks in the halfcourt, Dudley found a way to make his presence felt.
Dudley is going to be the type of player that every successful team needs. He might not blow anybody away with any fancy individual skill, but the remarkable efficiency with which he seeks out small ways to contribute and converts is going to get him drafted, perhaps in the first round.
http://www.draftexpress.com/viewarticle.php?a=2091
however, if we come out of this draft with Dudley and Afflalo (or Almond, Tucker, Byars), as Body mentioned, I will be quite happy and also call it a day.http://www.hoopsworld.com/article_22132.shtml
The West Coast native who spent his college career on the East Coast wants to showcase his strengths in the NBA. Although he has his eye on the San Antonio Spurs, Dudley isn’t limiting his options. He knows the right team for him is out there.
btw. just if someone is still speculating that Fernandez might fall (or that Spurs can somehow trade up a bit to get him)
after he struggled in his first 3 PO games he turned things around and played fantastic in the last 3 games (23+23+17 points, 59% FG, 50% 3s).
I'm more and more convinced that the Hornets will pick him at 13.
(in that case it will also not be a problem for him to pay his buyout, which was reported to be 1 million $)
Fernandez should be a great fit alongside Paul.
I don't get all the Dudley hate.
On the one hand, people are freakin high on Nocioni and the other hand they hate Dudley who seems to be the same kind of players.
is dudley anyway related to chris dudley? we all know how he panned out, but i still respect the man for stickin around in the nba with his crap epitoure of a game
After the Hornets got burned by Arvydas Macijauskas I don't know how interested they are in foreigners. Word is that Byron Scott is not too hot on their game and Jeff Bower doesn't scout the foreign talent like he should.
Now, they need a SG like crazy. But I'm not sure Rudy is who they'll take.
sure, the Macijauskas desaster didn't help to bring fernandez to NL.
so maybe you are right and they will pass on him, but IMO Fernandez is the best pure SG in this draft.
Oh, without a doubt. But I think they're a little ethnocentric at this point and want to draft mainly from the college ranks. Plus, Rudy's buyout issues could be a problem in bringing him over this year and they really need help NOW at the 2.
fernandez looks like a busts, actually he wont live up to the player you guys think his going to be in the nba.....besides ginoboli is there any other good "white" SG in the league today? look wat happen to delfino who became a bust
It's not hate on Dudley, but there have been numerous college players that dominated that arena who couldn't make an NBA roster. Dudley just doesn't have a game tailored to the NBA...he doesn't have the athleticism to play the 3 and doesn't have the height/strength to play the 4. He's a classic "tweener", and not in a good way.
Look, I could be wrong. Dudley could get drafted by the Spurs and turn out to be that good/great intangible guy who plays with great energy/intensity....he has that very endearing quality. I would only be upset because in my view the Spurs would potentially be passing on better overall players.
If the Spurs snag him with 33 I guess I'd be okay with it, and I generally trust the Spurs' judgement...but I would like for the Spurs to go out of character and draft a guy that's actually on the draft board for the rest of the world.
Did you just say that because Fernandez is a caucasoid he can't play SG in the NBA? That's a flat-out rediculous statement. I do think some on this board overrate him and I do think that he can be streaky....but I also think that the Spurs would be lucky to snag him at 28.
????
I have have been watching Fernandez at least 10 times this season.
he didn't look like a bust. not even a bit. he looked like a gem in almost every single game.
and having watched young Manu a lot I claim that Fernandez looks mybe a even a bit more mature and polished than Manu did at the same age.
so when did you see him when he looked like a bust?
I don't claim that he will have a Manu like impact in the NBA.
all I say is that he has the same skill set, the same athleticismn, the same talent, the same fire, the same heart.
that's not the worst thing to start with.
and the difference to Delfino is, that Fernadez is a very smart and coachable guy.
Delfino wasn't able to adjust to the NBA because he wasn't able (or willing) to adjust to another situation on the team. maybe he thought the Pistons will rebuild immediatly around him.
however.
(and I still would like to see Delfino on another team, till lable him a bust)
tdmpvdpoy is usually ignored in any discussion remotely serious.
I see Charlotte getting Nick Young. It's a natural fit and I can see him falling there very easily - top 10 players seem set in my mind, although order isn't clear - then you have Acie Law probably at #11 and then Philly probably gets Julian Wright - I can't imagine them reaching for a SG with a pick coming up in the early 20s.
As for Dudley, I've really come around after my usual period of "wouldn't it be nice". If we get him at 28 I won't complain, be very happy. He'll be limited in parts of his game, perhaps get burned or overpowered at times, but as he says, he is a tremendous shooter at this point, and we will absolutely not have to worry about him blowing defensive rotations - he'll be where he needs to be. And I'd expect from him some of the same out-of-his-ass plays Horry does, like the steal on the inbounds early in Game 5 vs. Utah. Dudley can easily be that player. Obviously if we get him at 33 I'd be more thrilled, but will not be surprised to see the Spurs not take a chance. How many guys mention the Spurs as their number one choice?
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