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    Unless Beno is traded, there isn't even really a roster spot for the 33rd pick. Put Mahinmi/Scola in place of Ely, re-sign everyone else and the team would be full.
    How many roster spots do the Spurs have for draftees next season? According to Hoopshype, Bonner, Vaughn and Ely are all free agents and have the Spurs have team options on Horry and Bowen. In addition, Oberto has opted out, Finley can opt out and it seems the team would like to get rid of Barry and Beno if possible.

    So potential roster spots for next season are:

    Horry - contract will be guaranteed
    Bowen - contract will be guaranteed
    Oberto - may extend but I expect some team will find $4 million a year for 3-4 years a small enough cost to hurt the Spurs and gain a savvy big man in return.
    Ely - he is done
    Bonner - probability of staying if Oberto goes but Horry staying hurts his chances of being extended.
    Vaughn - probably staying but if he goes, a similar veteran will be signed for the same money.
    Finley - most seem to think he will not opt out but I think he still has a lot to offer a contender and if he receives a 3+ year deal, he is gone. This is his best possible time to go as even if he wins another ring next year he is a year older and therefore less attractive to other teams.
    Beno - will be swapped for any remotely positive offer.
    Barry - would like to trade him but only for a salary dump.

    So Ely, one of Oberto/Bonner and potentially Beno/Barry roster spots will become available.

    Ely's spot goes to the 33 pick. The Oberto/Bonner slot goes to Mahinmi (Scola is never going to play for the Spurs) so any additional draftee/free agent is dependent on Barry/Beno/Finley moving on.

    I would really like the Spurs to try to get anoher early/mid 2nd round pick if they manage to move Beno/Barry as I think that spot could be a contributor next year if a backcourt player is chosen.

    I really cannot see the Spurs taking a player at 28 that plays next year unless they like that player a LOT!

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    Glen Davis, Jermareo Davidson and Stephane Lasme have worked out with SA :
    http://spurstalk.com/forums/showpost...3&postcount=14

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    When I read about Glen Davis it makes me think about a 20 yo french player:
    Ibrahima KOMA CHEIKH.
    I never saw hime play and I don't know if he has an nba future but from what I read he seems very intriguing.

    He is a 6'9 280 lbs PF. He had some conditioning issues (he was 310 lbs) but has worked a lot to go down to his current weight. He is supposed to have nice athletism. The intriguing part is that he is supposed to have amazing hands and almost perfect shooting mechanics (I don't know his % put he is supposed to be a very good 3pt shooter).

    He spent the last season in a league for young players here in France ("Espoir Pro A") and was probably the most dominant player (Once again I don't know his stats, I just read somewhere he had a 31pt/15rbds game and lot of very good games). He is also a member of France U20 team.

    He should see some pro A minutes with Dijon next season. I read that Dijon coach have some faith in his young inside players (Koma and Olivier KOLB a 6'9 rebounding machine). So we should know more about him soon.

    Bruno (or any other French poster), did you ever saw him play? Did you hear about him?

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    ^I've never heard of him.

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    for mathbzh

    from a friend who have seen the guy playing two times , he seems to be a little bit overrated
    he's more a player who score near the basket than a shooter , a good player but not that far
    Dijon have a lot of players injured inside this season and he didn't play so maybe he's not ready yet
    I don't know him and i don't see him so we will see next year what he can do


    About Glen Davis who thinks this guy can make an NBA Team ?? a lot of people came impress with his footwork and his shoot from what i heard
    Also Lasme can be an option at no.58 pick , davis had some nice quotes about him in his blog.....

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    from a friend who have seen the guy playing two times , he seems to be a little bit overrated
    he's more a player who score near the basket than a shooter , a good player but not that far
    Dijon have a lot of players injured inside this season and he didn't play so maybe he's not ready yet
    I don't know him and i don't see him so we will see next year what he can do


    About Glen Davis who thinks this guy can make an NBA Team ?? a lot of people came impress with his footwork and his shoot from what i heard
    Also Lasme can be an option at no.58 pick , davis had some nice quotes about him in his blog.....
    Thanks

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    More reading material, positional rankings by Frank Burlison (Fox Sports)

    http://msn.foxsports.com/nba/wcStory...&storyNumber=4

    You navigate to all the segments from there...

    Another perspective, but I'm not to impressed with his evaluations.

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    NBADraft.net's Power Forward ratings -

    http://www.nbadraft.net/2007powerforwards001.asp

    Interesting comment about Fazekas -
    On paper Fazekas is a first rounder, and if you watched clips of him playing without the transition game he would appear to be a lottery pick. His biggest issue is running the floor as he moves like he has a physical deformity. As ugly as he is in the open floor, he makes the game look so easy in the half court, rebounding with his abnormally long arms and shooting with tremendous touch.
    We're Spurs fans. We know that championships are won playing half-court. He might just fit in...

    and the Realgm.com draft preview for San Antonio

    http://spurs.realgm.com/articles/62/20070626/30_teams_30_days_san_antonio_draft_preview_(28th)/
    Last edited by pad300; 06-26-2007 at 11:37 PM.

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    NBADraft.net's Power Forward ratings -

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    Interesting comment about Fazekas -


    We're Spurs fans. We know that championships are won playing half-court. He might just fit in...

    and the Realgm.com draft preview for San Antonio

    http://spurs.realgm.com/articles/62/20070626/30_teams_30_days_san_antonio_draft_preview_(28th)/
    Well, part of that is because the Spurs defend the full court so well. If his man is constantly beating him back (thus creating opportunities for a secondary break), that would not be a good thing.

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    Compared to a week ago, I think the chances are better that Fernandez, Koponen or Belinelli fall to the Spurs. With players like Big Baby, Fazekas and Pruitt seemingly moving up, that could open the door for a coveted Euro to drop to the Spurs. I even think Splitter could fall to the Spurs.

    However, that is assuming that the Spurs covet a Euro this year. I think a trade or a Euro makes sense in the first round. I like Fernandez the best of that bunch, probably followed by Koponen. Belinelli is a gunner who does little else but shoot ... and he didn't even have that great of a shooting year last season. I'd take him but I think his upside is less than that of Barry currently.

    Splitter only makes sense if the Spurs really think that Oberto is gone and Scola is a lost cause. Splitter reminds me of a better version of Rafael Araujo ... not exactly someone who could make a huge amount of difference.

    Of the domestics at 28, I'm starting to warm up to the idea of Dudley. Byars would be my first wish but Dudley seems like he'd be a pretty nice addition. Fazekas or McRoberts would enter the picture if the Spurs are on the market for a Bonner replacement.

    I'd be excited if the Spurs picked McGuire or Chandler, since that means that the Spurs believe that their character issues are overblown. Both of those guys seem to have the skillset that the Spurs need.

    At 33, a lot of other players become a lot more enticing due to the non-guaranteed contract including Pruitt, Dowdell, Almond, Terry and Nichols. I still hesitate to add players like Afflalo and Tucker to the list.

    At 58, that pick is either traded or Euro. Luckily, there seems to be some deep Euro talent in this draft. For example, the Spurs might be able to get a guy like Marko Tomas, who not too long ago was considered a borderline lottery pick.

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    Who will the Spurs pick in the draft?

    The Spurs have the No. 28 pick in Thursday's NBA draft, assuming they don't trade it. They also have two later picks.

    Various media reports have the Spurs interested in (in no particular order), UCLA guard Aron Afflalo, Italy guard Marco Belinelli, Marist point guard Jared Jordan, USC point guard Gabe Pruitt, Boston College forward Jared Dudley, Nevada power forward Nick Fazekas, Brazil power forward Tiago Splitter and Finland point guard Petteri Kopenen.

    What player or what position do you think the Spurs will or should focus on with their first draft pick?

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    NBADraft.net's Power Forward ratings -

    http://www.nbadraft.net/2007powerforwards001.asp

    Interesting comment about Fazekas -

    On paper Fazekas is a first rounder, and if you watched clips of him playing without the transition game he would appear to be a lottery pick. His biggest issue is running the floor as he moves like he has a physical deformity. As ugly as he is in the open floor, he makes the game look so easy in the half court, rebounding with his abnormally long arms and shooting with tremendous touch.

    We're Spurs fans. We know that championships are won playing half-court. He might just fit in...

    and the Realgm.com draft preview for San Antonio

    http://spurs.realgm.com/articles/62/20070626/30_teams_30_days_san_antonio_draft_preview_(28th)/

    I think all of the talk about how he runs the court is both funny....and rediculous. The Spurs have another player that doesn't look elegant running the court, but it doesn't make him a bad basketball player. I'm talking about Matt Bonner with his T-Rex arms, trotting down the court.

    If Fazekas is as skilled an inside-out player as he's been talked about, I could care less how he runs in the open court. I think he goes #27 to Houston, but if he's available at #33, I think he'd be a legitimate option...

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    Who will the Spurs pick in the draft?

    The Spurs have the No. 28 pick in Thursday's NBA draft, assuming they don't trade it. They also have two later picks.

    Various media reports have the Spurs interested in (in no particular order), UCLA guard Aron Afflalo, Italy guard Marco Belinelli, Marist point guard Jared Jordan, USC point guard Gabe Pruitt, Boston College forward Jared Dudley, Nevada power forward Nick Fazekas, Brazil power forward Tiago Splitter and Finland point guard Petteri Kopenen.

    What player or what position do you think the Spurs will or should focus on with their first draft pick?
    why do you ask us something, that has been diskussed in the previous 2263 posts of this thread, as if we waited for your post to start.
    tell us your opinion instead, because I assume, that people here already know that we have the #28 pick.

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    I think all of the talk about how he runs the court is both funny....and rediculous. The Spurs have another player that doesn't look elegant running the court, but it doesn't make him a bad basketball player. I'm talking about Matt Bonner with his T-Rex arms, trotting down the court.

    If Fazekas is as skilled an inside-out player as he's been talked about, I could care less how he runs in the open court. I think he goes #27 to Houston, but if he's available at #33, I think he'd be a legitimate option...
    Running in the open court should not be so difficult to learn... how can it be a big problem? Pick him and make him run the whole summer. I guess it is easier to make him a decent runner than to give a jumpshot to Tony... We just have to find Chip running counterpart.

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    New article on Draft Express about a system for rating players based on their performance against better or equal teams/players.

    It radically changes the prediction of NBA success on a lot of prominent players.

    http://www.draftexpress.com/viewarticle.php?a=2146

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    At 58, that pick is either traded or Euro. Luckily, there seems to be some deep Euro talent in this draft. For example, the Spurs might be able to get a guy like Marko Tomas, who not too long ago was considered a borderline lottery pick.
    Tomas would be a bad choice IMO. it's right, he was labeled as one of the premium european talents of this class, but he didn't show much (if any) improvement the last 2 seasons. right now he looks as if he will develope into an average player for the spanish league, but for sure not like a legit NBA talent.

    the Spurs can gamble with this pick on not so well known players, who might still have much hidden upside left.
    Saśl Blanco is one of those players. he totally failed to make an impression in the Reebok Eurocamp, so he is still far under the radar. but such things happen. he is a bit of a late bloomer and improved a lot during the last months. of course he might also be a bust, but he might also be one of the players who break out big time in the next two years. (something I don't expect from Tomas)

    another player to gamble on could be Lukša Andrić. also a player who showed significant developement last year, after many thought he just lacks the talent. still raw and needs time, but might be very good in 3 years from now, at least on defense. (already a great athlete, quite fast, very agressive, hard worker)

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    Here are some of the names that I've heard thrown out for that 58 spot:

    International

    Sun Yue
    Marko Tomas
    Jonas Maciulis
    Yannick Bokolo
    Ralfi Silva Ansaloni
    Ali Traore
    Stanko Barac
    Renaldas Seibutis
    Mirza Teletovic

    Domestic

    DJ Strawberry
    Jermerao Davidson
    Stephane Lasme
    Carl Landry

    Who do you like?

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    Here are some of the names that I've heard thrown out for that 58 spot:

    International

    Sun Yue
    Marko Tomas
    Jonas Maciulis
    Yannick Bokolo
    Ralfi Silva Ansaloni
    Ali Traore
    Stanko Barac
    Renaldas Seibutis
    Mirza Teletovic

    Domestic

    DJ Strawberry
    Jermerao Davidson
    Stephane Lasme
    Carl Landry

    Who do you like?

    if Carl Landry is in fact still there, I would pick him. could be a great steal. IMO he is far underrated.
    same with Barac. if even don't like the idea of drafting him that much, but if he slips till #58, we should think about it.
    I also like Maciulis, but he stated he doesn't want to play in the NBA.

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    As we are about 2.5 hours away from the draft, here's my ordered list of players I'd like the Spurs to pick:

    Point Guards
    Zabian Dowdell
    Gabe Pruitt
    Taurean Green
    Aaron Brooks
    Jared Jordan
    Ramon Sessions

    Swingmen
    Derrick Byars
    Jared Dudley
    Morris Almond
    Wilson Chandler
    Dominic McGuire
    Arron Afflalo

    Internationals
    Rudy Fernandez
    Petteri Koponen
    Marco Belinelli
    Renaldas Seibutis
    Giorgos Printezis
    Marko Tomas

    I'm flip flopping between Byars and Dudley in the swingmen category. Those two are rather close but I'm giving Byars the nod due to his superior athleticism.

    Chandler and McGuire make the list because they are both what the Spurs are looking for as far as a small forward down the road.

    I'd be happy Printezis at 58. He's a Greek Long Small Foward who sounds like the type of player the Spurs could use. Tomas wouldn't be half bad either.

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    If Byars is there, you have to take him, IMO.

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    timvp, no F/Cs on the list....you don't want them to draft Gasol, Fesenko, Barac, Gray, Jermareo Davidson, etc.?

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    I like your list but would flop belinelli and koponan

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    timvp, no F/Cs on the list....you don't want them to draft Gasol, Fesenko, Barac, Gray, Jermareo Davidson, etc.?
    I thought about it and just none of them sound useful for this team

    Really, the Spurs have Duncan, Oberto*, Elson, Horry, Bonner*, Butler, Scola* and Mahinmi*. That's up to eight bigmen who could be on the roster next year. And with either Butler or Mahinmi (or both) on the roster next season, there really isn't a need for a big.

    Perhaps Fazekas if the Spurs view him better than Bonner but I don't know how much an international big would help this team anytime soon. Even if Splitter drops to 28, that pick wouldn't excite me ... much less Fesenko, Stanko or any other anko's the Spurs can find.

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    Did marcus do a profile on Derrick Byars?

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    I thought about it and just none of them sound useful for this team

    Really, the Spurs have Duncan, Oberto*, Elson, Horry, Bonner*, Butler, Scola* and Mahinmi*. That's up to eight bigmen who could be on the roster next year. And with either Butler or Mahinmi (or both) on the roster next season, there really isn't a need for a big.

    Perhaps Fazekas if the Spurs view him better than Bonner but I don't know how much an international big would help this team anytime soon. Even if Splitter drops to 28, that pick wouldn't excite me ... much less Fesenko, Stanko or any other anko's the Spurs can find.
    I happen to agree with you, but I was just wondering if you'd accidentally left them off...

    Splitter at #28 sounds like a good deal to me, though I doubt it will happen...

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