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If anything, Bruce sets the other teams into a one-on-one mindset and obliterates offense from anyone else on the team. Check out who is #1 in the league in allowed assists and assist differential and then tell me Bruce has nothing to do with it.
The only person he shut down this year was Marion. He had 8 points to his 19 point avg. He did have 18 boards though. And in our two losses it was his man that tourched us.
Name---Points----Avg
Morrison 27 points to a 15 avg
T-Mac 26 points to a 19 avg
Richardson 21 points to a 18 avg
James 35 points to a 28 avg
Howard 20 points to a 16 avg
Not sure about Toranto
Aside from Marion, you can hardly call that a shut down defense. You cannot even call that "Hold them to their average" defense.
now analyse this numbers:
2006/7 seasson:
http://www.82games.com/0607/0607SAS.HTM
http://www.82games.com/0607/0607SAS5.HTM
2005/6 seasson:
http://www.82games.com/0506/0506SAS.HTM
http://www.82games.com/0506/0506SAS5.HTM
his "great" defense and his inexistent offensive production are more harmful than beneficial for the team.
If anything, Bruce sets the other teams into a one-on-one mindset and obliterates offense from anyone else on the team. Check out who is #1 in the league in allowed assists and assist differential and then tell me Bruce has nothing to do with it.
You failed to add the most important stats...HOW MANY SHOTS DID IT TAKE FOR EACH OF THOSE SCORERS TO GET THEIR POINTS?
When Bruce is holding Kobe or TMac to 35 points on 35 shots...HE IS DOING HIS JOB
!!!
RECOGNIZE.
An odd drive by posting.
And a repeat no less.
I declare this guy an anonymous coward.
he is allowing to his opponents to shoot .531 eFG% this year!!, and unimpresive .443 the past year.
Bruce Bowen's D is now overrated?
Have we gone MAD!?!!
actually, i'll agree a bit with the original premise of this post - that bruce is a bit overrated on defense. only because many in the media will call him a 'shutdown defender' and that just plain doesn't exist.
what bruce does do on the perimeter is make his opponent work harder for their shots/points than anybody else in the game. his man usually works so hard for his shot that he often forgets about his teammates, gets sloppy on defense, and doesn't have the legs to make a 4th quarter impact. we are still seeing that effect this year.
Let's look at this-
Josh Howard 20 on 16 shots
LeBron James 35 on 26 shots (Pop complained that LeBron was getting preferential treatment)
Mo Peterson 15 on 11 shots
Quentin Richardson 14 on 9 shots
Shawn Marion 8 on 13 shots
Quentin Richardson 21 on 16 shots
Tracy McGrady 26 on 25 shots
Adam Morrison 27 on 23 shots
Andres Nocioni 1 on 10 shots
Ron Artest 22 on 20 shots
Now take a look at that and tell me why Bruce is overrated. Perhaps the reason the Spurs lost is because the rest of the team didn't fill their roles as well as Bruce did on those days.
Total Numbers
168 points made/169 shots attempted
IMAGINE THAT!!!
As much as I disagree with spurs in 7, who gives a damn? He's still playing defense, and if it's not as good as last year, he's still a good defender. And plus, he's getting old. That's why we have James White.
Fans from other teams pretending to be Spurs fans is always cool.
Just change your user name and your team name and represent, instead of masquerading as a Spurs fan like a . And that's spelled b-i-t-c-h, not "beatch" like you seem to use so often in your posts when talking about Bowen, Parker, Pop etc.
Oh and as a noted stat freak, I will tell you that things that Bruce does...DO NOT SHOW UP IN A BOX SCORE. Unless you can tell me where stellar Position Defense shows up, then Bruce is getting dinged statistically for following his role to the tee.
Now, where it does show up, if you're going to use a rating score like Points Created or Tendex or PER, is that while Bruce's scores have always been low...Look at the difference when a premier scorer plays AGAINST Bruce, and then when he doesn't. I'll venture a bet that that player has a lower score than his average against Bruce.
of a stat!
Bowen's D however was horrible in the first half against McGrady and Morrison. It seems after Stu Jackson's call and before Pop's pep talk, Bowen was easing up a little. But he was back to business against the Bulls and I'm sure that will continue.
Yup.
Wow, I never thought I would actually type this phrase but the mood struck me...PWNAGE!
Bowen's defense isn't overrated asshole. But in the eyes of the league he is, like Isiah Thomas wining for Bruce shutting his team down. As if they could have won the game anyways. Bruce deserves defensive player of the year this year no doubt if he doesn't get it at the end of the year then there is a problem with the league...GO SPURS GO...
"My word, it's a drive-by fruiting!"
A troll that can't even read/understand stats.
These eFG% are the opposite SF eFG and :
1. Bowen doesn't play 48mpg.
2. Bowen doesn't always defend the opposite SF, he always defend the opposite SG (Kobe, Allen...)
I heard that the league has now contacted Dirk and informed him that he must now wipe from front to back rather than back to front. Also, Tim can no longer use the bank shot because it is difficult for teams to defend......
you people doesnt have a little of objectivity to debate about this topic.
Bowen's entire game is overrated.
tlongII....... your moms pic here is overrated....... I'm blown
tlongII ...... either your mom or your sister or your girlfriend is pretty hot. Can I have a shot at her. Give you a dime sack
Thats pretty much all the arguement we need.
Why give him anything you can probably get it for free. Don't waste your weed...
come on..... maybe a nickel sack..... or a J??????
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