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I don't think Manu is protesting it or anything. He has always said he'll do whatever is best for the team. But it's not up to him to "let" Barry start. It's all up to the coaching staff.
Ginobili needs to swallow the pride, let Brent Barry start, and let this team flourish with him being a great 6th man.
Come on Manu, go with it!!!!!!!!!!
I don't think Manu is protesting it or anything. He has always said he'll do whatever is best for the team. But it's not up to him to "let" Barry start. It's all up to the coaching staff.
I think Manu's reluctance to come off the bench all year, is a factor.But it's not up to him to "let" Barry start. It's all up to the coaching staff.
Hes putting on a good face, but for some reason, starting is a big friggen deal to him.
Manu from bench > Manu starter
has he actually said he doesn't like coming off the bench? from his quotes, he only wants to have more minutes, coming from the bench or starting
Even if Manu hasn't an oversized ego, I thing it's more "normal" for him to start.
it's just a question of respect and naturel order of things. When you're at a certain point in you career where you've accomplished great things and that you're still in your prime, that's something that has to be respected.
Starting symbolises that and establishes the hierarchy in a team. You're in the best five of the team, you're beginning the game, you're receiving the crowd encouragement.
U can't just put a guy that represents a lot of thing for your team, at this level of his career, on the bench. That is not natural, both sportingly and humanly speaking, which are two things that has equal importance in the game, maybe even more in SA.
Last year he said, he didn't like it but that he knows Pop is doing what is best for the team.
only about beautiful beaches.
Intl side effect is coming .... but I do agree
Manu says all the right things, but obviously he wants to start, he wants more minutes, and deserves to start.
Everybody, esp the players, knows starting is reserved for the 5 best players. Even if Manu got the same number of minutes. Pop is extremely rigid with his starting line-ups throughout the season, meaning Pop himself considers his decision on starters to be fairly sacred and breaking into that decision is very difficult.
Nobody wants an needs-explanation asterisk on his career, like "He was very good, actually good enough to start, but he was benched because he was better as 6th man"
And if the Spurs so desparately need Manu's spark off the bench, that says tons about the non-sparks who start and can't "get it done".
If the Spurs don't have any/enough spark/talent off the bench when Manu starts, why penalize Manu for that?
If Michael can't hit as a starter or isn't instant offense off the bench, why penalize Manu for that?
If it's "all about the team", then how many more games will the Spurs win because Manu doesn't start?
Or, How many more games will the Spurs lose because Manu starts?
In the past 3 seasons, how many games have the Spurs won or lost because of Manu was much less a queston of whether he was starting or benched, but much more because he was healthy or not, just like right now.
The Spurs are 15 -5 even after a pretty ty November. Manu didn't play in the losses against GSW and Utah, and shot for in the loss vs Charlotte.
How much better than 15 -5 if Manu didn't start?
How much better if Manu actually played?
When the Spurs have bad game, losing to a lottery team, it's on ALL the Spurs, not just Manu starting or not.
Last edited by boutons_; 12-10-2006 at 09:27 AM.
That would be a crime and affect my sense of drunk
I assume that some of us (ARG's pple) find this idea extremelly direspectful (if this word exists), but knowing Manu's way of thinking ... probably he doesn't care about starting or not, but boy leave him on the court at the end ...
I was missing this 2006-2007 version of this classic discussion, don't forget to anounce when the Desperate trade season starts ...
ooopsMoving a player to the bench = castration.
The war is coming soonhow about they put tony on the bench and start manu?
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You are hilarious and pathetic at the same time
The funny thing is we went through this discussion many times. Furthermore, Pop has tried playing Manu off the bench many times.
Sometimes it works, sometimes it doesn't. Or people forget Denver/Seattle in 2005.
I remember people who now want Manu desperately coming off the bench, wanting Manu desperately to start.
I say, play him off the bench until it stops working.
I don't really get that kind of personality from Manu, he doesn't seem to walk on egg-s s with his words or give the same ol' political answers. He seems pretty straightforward.
I don't have him pegged as one of those pretense guys who mind their words. Same goes for Timmy.
I know, Duck likes to keep his mouth shut, but when opportunity strikes his Anti-Manu stance pours out tenfold.
usually in crazy sentences like that.
Dude has a ed up sense of perspective when it comes to the Tony vs. Manu drama.
aah... there's the idiot we know and love. Usually ducks like to sugar coat his manu bashing with the occasional "I love Manu but..." bull , but this... this is the real ducks. Dude is still ing stuck on the whole Manu vs. Tony crap from 2004. Grow the up!
I'm with smeagol here, play what works! Manu coming off the bench right now seems to be paying up, so keep playing him from the bench until it becomes necesary for him to start. Pop knows what he's doing, we wouldn't be winning so much if he didn't.
I wonder how long it will take his sorry ass to realize that quote was not from Manu, but rather 2centsworth opinion... hmm...
If the biggest problem the Spurs face is whether or not Manu should come off the bench, we should start moving the banners over to make room for the next one.
Apparently some fans think the Spurs are a soap opera rather than a basketball team.
"a soap opera"
Sometimes Manu sounds like psycho-babble girly-man "artista Latino" talking about his super-fragile, reticent confidence, how delicately he must seduce it, trying to get it, muse-like, to inspire him to playing well.
I've been watching a lot of NBA TV on the occasion of the Larry Bird 50th bday celebration. Larry wasn't no sensitive girly-man.
You really want soap? Bring in SJax or The Answer, then we'll have 24x7 soap.
"a soap opera"
Sometimes Manu sounds like psycho-babble girly-man "artista Latino" talking about his super-fragile, reticent confidence, how delicately he must seduce it, trying to get it, muse-like, to inspire him to playing well.
I've been watching a lot of NBA TV on the occasion of the Larry Bird 50th bday celebration. Larry wasn't no sensitive girly-man.
You really want soap? Bring in SJax or The Answer, then we'll have 24x7 soap.
Congrats, this is the dumbest you've ever sounded.
is manu starting today or not?
extreme rarity would be 1 every 3 or 4 games, but it happens 2 to 3 times a game. But maybe that's what you mean by extreme rarity
By the way, twice when Manu went up top and called for the ball, Pop had called a different play .. that's why Tony waved him off.
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