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    Is there any doubt that this team is the worst defensive team in the Tim Duncan era? Anyone want to say differently?

    Didn't think so.
    Bucks and Spurs game blog....

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    Offense isn't always gonna be there. It might just stop and you might go on a 0-11 drought during the 4th. Defense is more reliable, you can control it, but sometimes you just can't control the rim and things might not go your way.

    With defense and aggressivness, you'll control the game; stopping the other team and getting to the foul line, which in the Spurs case getting to the foul line doesn't really matter.

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    Offense isn't always gonna be there. It might just stop and you might go on a 0-11 drought during the 4th. Defense is more reliable, you can control it, but sometimes you just can't control the rim and things might not go your way.

    With defense and aggressivness, you'll control the game; stopping the other team and getting to the foul line, which in the Spurs case getting to the foul line doesn't really matter.
    You're starting to sound like your from the Pop Davidian.

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    That's a true statement.

    If the Spurs are in better shape than their opponent than all they have to do is play a full hard 24 seconds of defense and just be aggressive on the offense end. Once you're aggressive inside with slashers and post players the outside game opens up a considerable amount paving way for players like Barry, Finley, Beno, Vaughn, Horry, Bonner etc. Also, if you're gonna slack off do it on the offensive end.

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    ty backup pgs, centers that would lead any other team without duncan to the worst record in nba history, a sg that can only play 3-4 minutes at a time when he can play, that's when.... a coach that doesn't know wtf he wants to play or how he wants to play..... The Spurs aren't very good anymore.

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    I'd be happy if Timmy would just pretend that he's never going to get a foul call again and just play basketball.

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    Between our ty defense and total lack of rebounding...


    This team frustrates me to no end. Who cares about the offense when you can do anything else....offense doesnt win les and we all know that.

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    This game was a replay of the Mavs series. Every Buck and his brother got to the paint.

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    Is there any doubt that this team is the worst defensive team in the Tim Duncan era? Anyone want to say differently?

    Didn't think so.
    There wasn't a player available last summer, nor right now, that could've fixed it either.

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    However, in the last three games (the Spurs best games of the season?) the Spurs have held opponents to ~41% shooting and 82.3 ppg.

    So even though they are running a high octane offense, they haven't given up the concept of D.
    ...until the Bucks came to town.

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    56.8% shooting? If the playoffs started tomorrow, the Spurs would be bounced in the first round.

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    To be fair, Michael Redd's going to have games like that. That's what he does.

    Even Mo Williams can be a tough cover.

    What is unacceptable is Ruben Patterson and Brian Focking Skinner lighting you up.

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    What is unacceptable is Ruben Patterson and Brian Focking Skinner lighting you up.
    Very true. Weirdly I was rooting for Skinner to do well because I always thought he would have been a good Spur.

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    Id love to know when any December Spurs team was ready for the playoffs.

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    Id love to know when any December Spurs team was ready for the playoffs.
    So you don't have any concerns about how bad the D is, Sunshine? In the past when Spurs teams hadn't gelled, they were still in the top 5 in FG% D -- even in December. This team's FG% D is horrid.

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    Of course.

    I just don't let it show

    Sunshine? Im ina good mood. Beautifull day, lots of family around.


    Life is good.


    Spurs lost, eh, no big deal.

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    Of course.

    I just don't let it show

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    Well this board is for letting it show. It's a Spurs discussion board.

    I guess you should go pick daisies or something until you get in the mood to talk about the team again.

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    The defense has been bad.

    Will it get better? Who knows.

    I only take solace in the fact, there was no, or is no, available good defensive players to get.


    Its the new NBA.

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    I guess you should go pick daisies or something until you get in the mood to talk about the team again
    Im talking the team.

    Its sports, I just don't think its worth cursing about anymore.

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    The defense has been bad.

    Will it get better? Who knows.

    I only take solace in the fact, there was no, or is no, available good defensive players to get.


    Its the new NBA.
    Bull .

    Other NBA teams are playing much better defense than the Spurs, so how do you figure that it's the new NBA?

    Why can't the Spurs be one of the teams holding opponents to 40/42%?

    It's not about the Spurs new additions not playing good defense. It's about the Spurs TEAM not grasping (or caring?) about the defensive system. It's about Tim crying to the refs and not getting back .. or letting opponents run over him in the paint. It's about no one helping when players get picked off.

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    It's not about the Spurs new additions not playing good defense. It's about the Spurs TEAM not grasping (or caring?) about the defensive system
    So Elson not playing good D isnt part of the problem anymore? Oh goody!!

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    So Elson not playing good D isnt part of the problem anymore? Oh goody!!
    Isn't he on the team? I said it's about the whole team.

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    Ugh the only other teams you could even make a case being better on defense are Houston and Chicago. And both teams are not very good offensively so far this season.

    Spurs are still an excellent defensive team, they just aren't historically great like they have been the past 3 seasons. But yeah, it is noticable that they have gotten worse on defense by their standards. By the NBA standards, they still are a top 3 elite defensive team.

    Oh, by the way the Spurs before tonight were ranked #3 in the league on offense. Just ahead of the Pistons and the Mavericks. A hair behind the Washington Wizards. Phoenix is clearly the best on offense and will stay that way.

    Denver should be moving up when Melo comes back.

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    Ugh the only other teams you could even make a case being better on defense are Houston and Chicago. And both teams are not very good offensively so far this season.

    Spurs are still an excellent defensive team, they just aren't historically great like they have been the past 3 seasons. But yeah, it is noticable that they have gotten worse on defense by their standards. By the NBA standards, they still are a top 3 elite defensive team.
    What's their FG% Defense? 15th? How does that make them a top 3 elite defensive team?

    Just because they blew out some teams and kept their opp ppg low, doesn't mean they are good defensively.

    Are you guys watching these games?

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    Isn't he on the team? I said it's about the whole team.
    but you said.....

    Nevermind.


    Will they get better?

    Who knows. I don't know what the fix is.


    I do know one thing, if Pop keeps Eric WIlliams on the bench, hes a loon.


    Williams played great defense, shot the ball very well, and looked great out there.


    Should be kept for the rest of the year, not cut or traded.

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