So which time period would you call Shaq’s prime years? I define it as 94 to 03.
The standings are as follows:
REB. Lead Shaq
1994 Rodman 2nd
1995 Rodman 3rd
1996 Rodman N/A
1997 Rodman N/A
1998 Rodman N/A
1999 Webber N/A
2000 Mutombo 2nd
2001 Mutombo 3rd
2002 Wallace N/A
2003 Wallace N/A
Blocks Lead Shaq
1994 Mutombo 4th
1995 Mutombo N/A
1996 Mutombo N/A
1997 Mutombo N/A
1998 Camby N/A
1999 Mourning N/A
2000 Mourning 3rd
2001 Ratliff 4th
2002 Wallace N/A
2003 Ratliff N/A
Scoring Lead Shaq
1994 Robinson 2nd
1995 Shaq 1st
1996 Jordan 3rd
1997 Jordan 3rd
1998 Jordan 2nd
1999 Iverson 2nd
2000 Shaq 1st
2001 Iverson 3rd
2002 Iverson 2nd
2003 McGrady 4th
An N/A standing means that either Shaq placed lower than 5th, or he didn’t play enough games to qualify. These are taken on a per game basis, not total.
First off, my mistake, Shaq lead the league in scoring twice, not once. But then when you look at the stats, there are a high % of years where Shaq didn’t finish in top 5 in rebounds and/or blocks, and in scoring, finished only 2nd to Jordan once.
As for Duncan, he was a PF and no, he is not blessed with the same size, agility and speed of Shaq (well, maybe speed), and was never expected to lead the league in any statistical category. Compare Shaq’s career to, say Robinson or Olajuwon would be more appropriate. Even though both of those players shared their prime years with Jordan and Rodman at their respective peaks, Robinson still managed to lead the league in rebounding once and scoring once (blocks once as well), and Olajuwon lead the league in rebounding and blocks as well.
Okay well that's fine. I have no problem with that. I think the way he did it was cheap, but even then it's not a big deal.
I just don't get how people can insist that he didn't give a about the scoring le (he obviously did). And how saying that Robinson might actually care about a personal statistic somehow becomes more offensive than raping Princess Diana's corpse.
It's debatable... 71 points on 41 shots is damned impressive, no matter how you look at it. That number of FGA has been matched or eclipsed 11 times in the last 20 years, and only Kobe beat 71 points.I think the way he did it was cheap, but even then it's not a big deal.
WHOA!!!
Good God, are you bipolar or something? You really need to get your panties out of your crack.
Robinson got caught up in the scoring thing. , the ing Clippers were rooting for him by the end of the game. Robinson's career should tell you he didn't give a about things like that, and Lucas made a big deal about the scoring le to make a point with his team and with his superstar. Shaq scored like 50 the night before, so Luke wanted to make a statement.
I was trying to tell you what was going on, are you actually reading any of this?
O'Neal in front of Hakeem is just plain and simple stupid.
Walton in front of David must be a typ-o.
It's debatable. But I DID read this...
...and this...
...I believe that the street term for this is "contradiction". So he doesn't give a , but WAIT A MINUTE he got caught up in the moment and DID give a ...hmm...But wait, there's more...
So first he doesn't give a , then he does, BUT NO he doesn't really give a because it's his coach that made him do it!
How about that law about the simplest possible answer being the right one? That being "David Robinson gave a about the scoring le, so he did what he had to do to make sure he got it." Doesn't mean he's any less classy of a guy. It really doesn't.
Wow, so reading comprehension is not your strong suit.
Ah. Mavs fan. Should have noticed earlier. You certainly proved you belong in their company.
BTW, Occam's razor isn't a law. It certainly proves that David Robinson was a ball hog his entire career. Didn't he average 40 shots per game one season?
Monosylable...did you or did you not see the number of fouls the Spurs commited in that game...do you still want to post a link from that article?
Secondly...don't give me this like Shaq didn't care about scoring les, that's all he tried to do his first 10 years in the league was win one...and it wasn't that easy for him to do.
Lastly...he did have a game where he went out and scored as many points as he could...ironically, the same year he won a scoring le....he couldn't get 70.
He could not score easier that Drob...Drob was every bit as good at dunking, plus Drob could hit free throws, plus he had a J.
Shaq can dunk or do baby hooks and you can foul him and he can't hit FT's.
Not as good of a scorer as DRob.
Not as good of a passer.
Not as good of a shotblocker.
Not as good of a rebounder.
Drob holds a huge advantage against him head to head in the pre Duncan era.
He has winning record against him for his career.
And Drob's teams were 2-1 VS Shaq's in the playoffs...
I don't see what else you have to add, unless you want to post bs links from wikipedia.
And I'd just like to say this...
Sabonis.
I have heard this forever...
Sabonis would have been better than Drob...
Blah...that's all evey ing euro that thinks he knows basketball has been saying.
Fact: Drob outscored and outrebounded Sabonis in that Olympic game...in which team USA lost it's starting guard and PF. While Team USSR had basically a freaking pro team featuring several players that were already playing in pro leagues and who would go on to play in the NBA.
Not to mention the fact that Team USSR scrimmaged against the Portland Trailblazers in preparation for that tourney.
Second Fact:
Drob owned Sabonis for a Gold Medal in the 86 Wold Championships....which at the time were more prestigious due to the fact that weren't subject to the boycotts so prevalent in the Olympics.
That's the fact...Euros need to stop saying the 88 Olympics prove Sabonis was better, when in fact...Sabonis got outscored, and out rebounded. That team USA was a weak team to begin with...and they were down 2 starters.
My reading comprehension is just fine. Your writing skills are somewhat lacking, however.
You're the one that contradicted yourself three times in one post.
You going to count 02?
Go ahead...
99 Sweep
01 Ugly Sweep
03 PWNT
Go ahead and count 02...everyone else is a cheap ass when it comes to Drob...you might as well be too.
When the did i EVER say that Shaq didn't care about scoring les? It's pretty well do ented that Shaq likes numbers and accolades. He's not ashamed to admit it.
ALL I SAID was that David Robinson DID give a about the scoring le. That's in' all. If he didn't give a , then 71 points wouldn't have happened.
And my link didn't come from Wikipedia, dumb . You didn't even look, did you?
Typical Spurs fan bull . Hey, why don't you tell me about all three of your rings that you won back whenever the it was.
I've been defending David Robinson on the internets since back when you were just a gleam in the coyote's eyes. But changing facts doesn't really help matters. Robinson missed two of the five games, but not sure how that counts as 2-1.
Damn dude chill out, no one is saying he was better than D-Rob, just that he was a lot better before he got to the NBA
...someone basing his argument on the total number of fouls called...hmm who is sounding like a Mavs fan now?
Seriously, I think every here agrees that Robinson was a great player (How could you say otherwise?) and undoubtedly a top 10 center of all time....but this guy's got his nose so far up Drob's ass that he's ejaculating over the scent of his kidneys.
...someone basing his argument on the total number of fouls called...hmm who is sounding like a Mavs fan now?
You sound like a Mavsfan...because you are too much of a to realize that the amount of fouls in that game against the Spurs was extremely low..
I'd die of shame if I ever posted a link as lame as that wiki article.
I've been defending David Robinson on the internets since back when you were just a gleam in the coyote's eyes. But changing facts doesn't really help matters. Robinson missed two of the five games, but not sure how that counts as 2-1.
Um...the fact that he probably shouldn't have even been on the basketball court.
I remember in one of those games his dunk attempt made Oberto look like Sergei Bubka.
IF he missed nearly half of the 5 games...how can you give say he takes responsiblity for the loss?
Secondly...he was coming back from a serious injury that left him with no feeling in his legs.
That's wasn't Drob in that partial series...me personally...I would have liked to have seen what happened in that series(in which the Spurs had a double digit lead entering the 4th of just about every game) with a healthy Drob.
True, Malik had probably his best playoff series as a Spur in that series...but I still think the Spurs D would have held up better in the 4ths if Drob had been able to play.
Ok fair enough...even being cheap...that leaves the playoff mark at 2-2.
I guess we should give Shaq some bonush points though...after all, he only had Kobe Bryant...it's not like he had the greatest guard tandem in NBA history like Drob did.
...not a wiki article, come back to me when you actually have an argument.
Who wrote it?
Dang, dude. You're getting all worked up over what a couple of morons said.
Spurs fans, however, are going to laugh freaking hard when either (a) the Mavs choke in the playoffs again, or (b) the Mavs actually manage not to choke and win it this time, only to have Spurs fans and the sports world in general forget all about it two weeks later. Or diss it, saying that they won because the East was weak, so and so was hurt, and so on. Either way, it's going to be hilarious.
It's awesome to see Little Brother all red-faced.
*tumbleweeds blow through thread*
By the way...you need to tell that guy he needs to talk to Linda Cohn...according to her it just happened because the Clips played no D.
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