Just a note: Chamberlain was an absolute freak of an athlete. He was ridiculously fast, strong, well-conditioned; he had, if I remember correctly, some state track records in high school (including high jump and shot put, perhaps in addition to running events); and he had a fade away and finger roll in addition to a power game. He wasn't the 1960's version of Shaq.
Let's see...Bob Cousy...nope, he was Bob Cousy before Russell got there.
Sam and KC Jones...uh nope.
Bill Sharman and Ed McCauley? Uh nope.
Havlicek...well I guess if Russell was so good Havlicek won a le without him...
Boston not only had $$$ but they also had immense power and the ability to leverage other teams out of players...
I'm STILL waiting for some Jack Sikma or Manute Bol lovin'........................
Where the is it?
As a Spurs fan, I HATED Shaq a few years ago. HATED! But you know what, it's because I hated his sheer physical dominance and the fact that he was on the enemy team. With his 4 rings, he now goes into the elite category of the top 4. I remember watching him in his prime, and his power, athleticism, speed and ferocity were awesome.
Malone goes ahead of Robinson for similar reasons, and also for longevity and his Finals MVP. Walton would've been higher but injuries came a-calling.
Reed had two Finals MVP's, so I can't see how anyone could leave him off this list.
And Parrish has just always been under-rated.
Ewing? No rings....Sorry....
Jack Sikma compares favorably to KG and David Robinson as an impact player.
Beno Udrih: one ring.
John Stockton: zero rings.
Advantage: Beno!
Chauncy Billups = 1 Finals MVP
Ben Wallace = 0
Billups > Wallace
Goddamn dude you are so ing stupid it defies the imagination. This is the second completely idiotic post you've made. Pointing out that Hakeem went downhill in his 13th season in the league was ing GENIUS.
Bill Russel doesnt belong on that list... Niether do Walton or Mikan
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Are you just mad that I left you off the list, Bob? I really wanted to include you and Nate Thurmond, but couldn't fit you in to the top 10. But you were great in your prime.
Russel is up there because of rings... some of which came with 8 teams in the league...
Mikan the same...
Walton... because he has an office down the hall...
None of them deserve to be ranked where they are.
Russell was 6'9".
If Ben Wallace was by some freak rip in time was put in his place, then HE would be considered a top 3 center of all time.
Oh, so NOW it's about les?
Dave's all around game is SO much better than Shaq's ever was that it isn't funny. Shaq does one thing: use his immense girth to run over people. If there was anyone on the list that had 2-3 good seasons, he's the one. A huge chunk of this late career is without any other dominant center playing against him.
WTF?
If you would put LeBron James in a time machine and send him back to 1955 (McFlY) he would be considered the best player in history period!
IMO Russ should be at no 1 spot.Team sport.
He would be called Oscar Robertson
Yea right, a guy that averaged 15 points and 22 rebounds with 11 rings doesnt belong on the list. Not to mention that they didnt even keep stats on blocks back then, or he would probably hold that record as well
The entire Spurs team totaled 17 fouls in that game. Total...for the entire ing game. Not a single Spurs player had more than 3 fouls.
17 fouls is an enormously low total....
Additionally, you are flat out lying about David Robinson's comments about that game...he says the Clippers were fighting like , and he had the scratches on his arms to prove it...
And guys guarding him, one of them fouled out, another had 5 fouls, and another had 4 fouls.
http://www.geocities.com/Colosseum/8895/71sco.htm
In this he does say that the team wanted him to get the scoring le, but like Whott said he had to fight for his points.
Box score from David's 71 point game:
Code:San Antonio (112) @ LA Clippers (97) 04/24/94 San Antonio (112) POS MIN FGM-FGA FTM-FTA TGM-TGA ORB-TRB AS ST BL TO PF TP mings,Terry F 22 2-10 1- 2 0- 0 6-12 2 0 0 1 0 5 Rodman,Dennis F 36 4- 5 0- 0 0- 0 3-17 3 1 1 2 1 8 Robinson,David C 44 26-41 18-25 1- 2 4-14 5 0 2 8 2 71 Del Negro,Vinny G 26 1- 3 0- 0 0- 0 0- 2 6 4 0 2 2 2 Daniels,Lloyd G 25 2- 7 0- 0 0- 2 0- 2 1 2 1 3 2 4 Knight,Negele 24 3- 6 0- 0 0- 0 0- 0 5 0 1 0 2 6 Floyd,Sleepy 23 1- 5 1- 4 1- 2 1- 5 6 0 0 4 3 4 Carr,Antoine 24 2- 2 0- 0 0- 0 0- 1 0 1 0 0 1 4 Reid,J.R. 12 2- 6 2- 2 0- 0 3- 4 0 0 0 1 2 6 Haley,Jack 4 1- 2 0- 0 0- 0 0- 1 0 0 0 0 2 2 TOTALS 240 44-87 22-33 2- 6 17-58 28 8 5 21 17 112 FG %: .506 FT %: .667 Three %: .333 Team Rebs: 10 Team TOs: 0 LA Clippers (97) POS MIN FGM-FGA FTM-FTA TGM-TGA ORB-TRB AS ST BL TO PF TP Wilkins,Dominique F 21 6-17 3- 4 1- 3 0- 1 2 1 0 1 2 16 Vaught,Loy F 25 7-10 2- 2 0- 0 2- 4 1 0 0 0 4 16 Spencer,Elmore C 5 0- 0 0- 0 0- 0 0- 1 0 0 1 1 2 0 Jackson,Mark G 16 1- 6 0- 0 0- 1 2- 3 6 2 0 0 0 2 Harper,Ron G 20 2- 6 0- 0 0- 0 0- 3 0 1 1 4 0 4 Martin,Bob 20 1- 2 0- 0 0- 0 0- 4 1 0 2 1 4 2 Outlaw,Charles 27 2- 5 0- 0 0- 0 3- 6 0 1 3 1 6 4 Dehere,Terry 28 10-17 4- 4 2- 3 2- 3 2 1 0 2 0 26 Grant,Gary 14 2- 4 0- 0 0- 0 0- 1 4 2 0 2 0 4 Ellis,Harold 27 6-15 2- 4 0- 1 1- 6 0 2 0 0 5 14 Williams,John 19 1- 4 0- 0 0- 2 0- 4 2 2 0 2 2 2 Woods,Randy 18 1- 9 4- 6 1- 8 2- 3 5 2 0 2 3 7 TOTALS 240 39-95 15-20 4-18 12-39 23 14 7 16 28 97 FG %: .411 FT %: .750 Three %: .222 Team Rebs: 8 Team TOs: 0 San Antonio 20 17 32 43 -- 112 LA Clippers 19 16 32 30 -- 97 Officials: HOLLINS, MIDDLETON, FINE Attendance: 16005 Time of Game: 2:09
Now here's the box score from Shaq's game played later that same day...
Code:New Jersey (91) @ Orlando (120) 04/24/94 New Jersey (91) POS MIN FGM-FGA FTM-FTA TGM-TGA ORB-TRB AS ST BL TO PF TP Brown,P.J. F 17 2- 6 0- 0 0- 0 3- 4 0 1 0 0 3 4 Coleman,Derrick F 30 10-15 4- 6 1- 2 1- 5 7 0 2 3 2 25 Benjamin,Benoit C 22 3- 9 0- 0 0- 0 1- 2 0 0 1 2 3 6 Edwards,Kevin G 24 2- 6 0- 0 0- 1 0- 1 3 3 0 1 1 4 Anderson,Kenny G 25 6-12 3- 5 2- 4 1- 3 8 3 1 4 4 17 Morris,Chris 26 0- 3 0- 0 0- 0 4- 8 2 1 2 1 1 0 Williams,Jayson 21 1- 6 4- 6 0- 0 1- 5 0 2 0 0 3 6 Wesley,David 18 1- 5 0- 0 0- 1 0- 2 3 2 1 5 0 2 Gilliam,Armon 19 2- 6 2- 6 0- 0 3- 6 0 0 0 1 2 6 Newman,Johnny 23 4- 8 2- 2 1- 2 2- 2 0 0 1 0 3 11 Mahorn,Rick 7 2- 2 1- 2 0- 0 1- 2 0 0 1 1 0 5 Walters,Rex 8 2- 5 1- 2 0- 0 0- 0 2 0 0 1 0 5 TOTALS 240 35-83 17-29 4-10 17-40 25 12 9 19 22 91 FG %: .422 FT %: .586 Three %: .400 Team Rebs: 9 Team TOs: 0 Orlando (120) POS MIN FGM-FGA FTM-FTA TGM-TGA ORB-TRB AS ST BL TO PF TP Krystkowiak,Larry F 28 4- 8 1- 2 0- 0 1- 2 0 1 0 6 2 9 Scott,Dennis F 37 7-14 4- 4 2- 6 0- 2 7 1 0 1 1 20 O'Neal,Shaquille C 41 12-21 8-14 0- 0 5-22 2 0 2 1 2 32 Anderson,Nick G 35 8-16 2- 2 3- 8 3- 4 5 5 0 4 2 21 Hardaway,Anfernee G 34 4-10 4- 8 0- 2 2- 7 8 3 1 4 1 12 Avent,Anthony 19 1- 4 2- 2 0- 0 2- 7 2 0 1 2 3 4 Skiles,Scott 14 3- 6 0- 0 1- 2 0- 1 4 1 0 0 1 7 Bowie,Anthony 13 0- 3 0- 0 0- 0 5- 6 1 1 1 1 3 0 Royal,Donald 11 3- 5 3- 4 0- 0 2- 2 1 0 0 0 3 9 Green,Litterial 5 2- 4 0- 0 0- 0 1- 2 1 0 0 0 0 4 Hammink,Geert 3 1- 3 0- 0 0- 0 1- 1 1 0 0 0 1 2 TOTALS 240 45-94 24-36 6-18 22-56 32 12 5 19 19 120 FG %: .479 FT %: .667 Three %: .333 Team Rebs: 16 Team TOs: 0 New Jersey 27 20 23 21 -- 91 Orlando 36 22 28 34 -- 120 Officials: SALVATORE, MADDEN, KINSEY Attendance: 15291 Time of Game: 2:05
Please note...Shaq's team commited 2 more fouls than DRob's...they played after Drob...Shaq didn't score half of what David did...inspite of his team commiting 2 more fouls.
This is the kind of ing bull people always do to David Robinson.
Shaq is the one that wanted to win a scoring le...David didn't give a about winning one.
Anything else you want to add?
And there's nothing loaded about David's totals either...
He shot over 50%...too bad he was having a ty day from the FT line...and too bad about those 8 to's...
Yup
cause Oscar had such power and leap to demolish the defense
I was just looking at Big O s stats, they are absolutely staggering
Are here people that want to compare the stats through ages?
Then
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