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The guy who Jermaine punched was a towel boy...the guy that Artest fought with was a fan.
The towel boy was trying to break up the fight between Artest and the fan...and then he fell down on the floor, and when he tried to get up...O'Neal sucker punched him.
Ben
This is why I am glad we don't have Stephen Jackson....
Damn (this is probably as bad a curse word as you will ever 'hear' me use).... I have tickets to the Pistons-Spurs game Dec. 3.... I'll trade them for tickets to the Sonics game on Dec. 8.
I hope they ban beer anywhere near the court across the NBA...
This behavior is completely unacceptable, idiotic and just plain not worth it...
Ok....Mike Brown was holding back a guy in a blue Pistons shirt trying to get to Artest and the guy in blue was swinging.
Sadly, this is my 1st post at the new forum......
I couldnt be any MORE #*&%ing embarrassed. God, what a black eye for detroit.
The real irony is, Ben is the NICEST guy on Earth. He's NEVER done anything CLOSE to this before.
I'm sure he feels worse about this than anyone. This is the first and LAST time he'll ever screw up like this.
WHAT THE **** WERE YOU THINKING, BEN!
That said, you cant blame ben for the riot, what he did has been done in 29 other NBA arenas, without this happening.
My guess is that the next pistons-pacers game in detroit will be closed to all fans.
And these guys play on christmas day, too. Ugh.
Thanks, styles. Looking at that, the stupid ass Indy players were lucky to get out alive.
It was not a towel boy...it was a fan wearing a Pistons jersey.
Damn (again) I also have Ben Wallace on my Fantasy Team...
They should just have the fans smoke pot....nobody ever fights when they are just smoking pot.
let the games begin
Artest wasn't defending himself when he went into the stands.
He got hit with a plastic bottle and the incident was over and security would have removed the person that did so.
You guys are ing crazy if you think the players have a right to go into the stands and start beating the out of the first guy they see because they got wet.
So, no, you're wrong. Rod.
And Jim...you are on crack if you think this is going to hurt the NBA...I actually thought the whole thing was pretty enjoyable...
Saying this will hurt the NBA is like saying Artest's past escapades would hurt his popularity...guess what? He made the All Star Game last year.
There's no such thing as bad publicity.
That and I have a headache.Yes, the blame is on both sides. It will be interesting to see how security is at games after tonight.
That guy looked pretty old to be a ball boy, plus he looked like he was charging O'Neal
i said it earlier....SJax needed to get his ass kicked for wearing that hair. Boy got -locks.
Disgusting. Players and fans are both to blame.
But I gotta agree with Sequ. Players can never, never, never go into the stands and assault a fan.
And self-defense is preposterous. First, you can only defend yourself with equal force. Getting hit with a bottle, cup whatever doesnt give you the right to beat the crap out of anyone you think threw it under the guise of self defense. Also I dont know if self-defense flys witht the security , cops, ect in the arena. If you hit me and theres a cop in the immediate vicinity, self defense usually doesnt allow my to attack you back. Im suppost to go to the cop and get help.
Also self-defense is to protect yourself from further danger, not a rationale to beat the crap outta someone. Which Artest and Jax did. Getting hit by a bottle, cup, whatever doesnt necessarily mean you're in immediate danger and can defend yourself.
Maxwell got 12 games for going into the stands and that wasnt half as bad as tonight.
Any player that left the bench should get 2 games regardless of what they did.
Any player that went into the crowd should get 5-10 regardless of what they did when they were in the crowd.
Wallace should get 10 games for starting the fight with Artest.
Artest, Oneil, and Jax all should get a minimum of 20 games.
Artest,, jax, Oneil, fan who threw the beer, big guy who cold ed Artest should all get criminal charges brought against them.
League needs to breing the hammer down on the players involved and set an example.
There's two different people. The guy that walks up to Artest in the cap that Artest hits, then a guy in a suit hits. Then someone else comes to his rescue (towel boy?) and that guy gets hit by Jermaine.It was not a towel boy...it was a fan wearing a Pistons jersey.
I think everyone who has any Piston or Pacer on their fantasy team should think about subs utions.
I've got Artest and Rip. How do you think I feel right about now?I think everyone who has any Piston or Pacer on their fantasy team should think about subs utions.
I just watched a video of the whole thing, and damn.. that's one of the craziest things I've ever seen.
I have Stephen Jackson in more than one league.
The guy who JO popped was wearing a Pistons jersey and looked a little old to be a towel boy. I don't think towel boys/girls can wear jerseys because of league rules about players in uniform and such.
Those SJax for Charlie Ward trades are looking REAL good right about now, I bet.
that is the one thing I think we all agree on!that's one of the craziest things I've ever seen.
He looked like he was part of Kid Rock's crew.
Why couldn't Artest have slugged him?
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