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Whoever he was, fan, towel boy or whatever, he can sue big time.
Also, I just rewatched and rewatched and I still can't tell if that's Chuck Person or Mike Brown who goes in there. I hope it's not Mike Brown.
Whoever he was, fan, towel boy or whatever, he can sue big time.
Also, I just rewatched and rewatched and I still can't tell if that's Chuck Person or Mike Brown who goes in there. I hope it's not Mike Brown.
Nah, if you got a Pacer bench player, you got some fat stats coming.
true but isn't coming off the bench like that an automatic suspension?
No Whott, your wrong. I never said he was defending himself. I said he was wrong for going in. The FANS turned this into a brawl, by trying to fight with all the players. Artest wasn't going in to fight with all of them, just one, multiple fans starting punching him and all the others. They are both wrong. But I only blame Artest and the Fans, no one else.
Mikey, they'll stagger those so that they can always field at least an 8 man team.
that is what I figured. Interesting to see how this affects both teams and for how long.
Mike Brown went into the stands to pull a player out of the brawl. He didn't do anything but try to get Artest out.
Anyone who is trying to deflect blame away from Artest needs to watch the video again.
He was not the towe/ball boy, he was a fan trying to fight with Artest. Look at the replays.
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Just saw it again, it wasn't the same guy, but he was no towel boy, more like the bother or buddy of the guy he was fighting.
Last edited by jcrod; 11-20-2004 at 01:28 AM.
If i was the NBA Id try to give Artest some kind of indefinate suspension and make him get some type of counseling before he could be reinstated based on his history of eratic and, sometimes violent, behavior.
agreed. he is not blameless.
Yeah but Stern's business mentality would allow Artest to play in the remaining 3 games against Detroit. Most watched games of the season will be those three.
Goes in where?
It's Brown who's holding Artest back.
Person has gained about 100 pounds...
Ok I got the entire thing and all the replays recorded on my puter...
The so called towelboy...I don't think he was a towelboy after watching it again...there were two fans that went down on the court...they almost look like brothers...the one in the dark shirt got in Artest's face and the one in the white Piston's jersey shoved Artest off of him...that made it look like he was towelboy because he is holding a towel...but I think he was with the guy that went down on the court and tried to pick a fight with Artest.
And it was definitely Person that beat this guys ass...Mike Brown has on a greyish suit(kinda like the one Reggie Miller is wearing)...Person had on the brown suit.
And the guy that started all this did end up getting his ass beat by both Jax and Artest...
Artest went over to beat the guy in the glasses ass...the guy who starred it came up behind him...the guy with the glasses through his coke in Artest's face and Jax went over there and just started wailing on him...then the guy who started it started throwing punches and some other guy did too...but Jax and Artest both beat on the guy who started it...they both got some good shots in on that guy.
Kori nailed it....the guy who popped Jones had a credential....he just got it revoked.
Artest was stupid to go after the fans, and deserves whatever suspension and fines he gets. The Detroit fans were even more stupid for provoking guys that are bigger and in better shape then will ever be in their life, and deserve just about everything they got.
Really classy to keep throwing stuff at the players too.
Yeah well Jax was behind him swinging wildly.
What you fail to realize is that Artest and Jax were beating the out of an innocent guy.
It's illegal to witness a crime and do nothing to stop it you know.....I may be exaggerating just a bit but those fans weren't just going to sit there and let those players beat some guy. Jax and Artest were both throwing punches before any fan threw them.
rarely do I agree with Bill Walton but he said it best...no winners here.
Artest is a crazy fvck but . . . SJax is not far behind him.
Did you guys see the old lady at the bottom of a pile of people?
that was sad.
False. There is not an ordinance or law in the country that requires you to risk yourself by doing anything while a crime is being committed. Reporting it and/or being a witness is all that's necessary.
I thought that was Teddy Kennedy.
That was horrible. And the kids comforting each other and being scared sucked too.Did you guys see the old lady at the bottom of a pile of people?
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