Real 9-11 Research

**clambake** · 03-12-2008

So, 19 (mostly) Saudi men woke up on September 11, 2001 and decided, independently of one another, to board four separate planes, hijeack them, and fly them into various economic and government landmarks in New York City and Washington, D.C.?

no no, they planned effectively and realized early on that flying into a k-mart would only help a faltering american business.

And, they did this with no planning,

is that what you think?

no centralized organization helping them,

when you say "centralized" are you refering to the Hate America Supporters?

and no governments supporting them?

Iraq?

completely ignoring the warning signs is lack of government support. and it doesn't change the fact that they were saudi.

**Galileo** · 03-12-2008

Originally Posted by ChumpDumper

Because the point of failure in the structure was far below every camera angle that managed to record the collapse.

Not this way. The plan was carried out far to effectively for those guys to plan it.

Since by asking that question you are implying that Bush, Cheney and Rumsfeld planned 9/11 -- I only have one question for you:

What do you think really happened on 9/11?

# 1

The point of failure was in the same place as it would be in a controlled demolition.

# 2

You didn't answer the question.

Are you suggesting the attack on Iraq and Afghanistan was not decided by Bush, Cheney, and/or Rumsfeld?

Are you suggesting that they didn't know this decision would cause the deaths of thousands of innocent Americans, and many more innocent foreigners?

Are you suggesting the attacks on Afghanistan and Iraq were too complicated for them to be planned and/or ordered by Bush/Cheny/Rumsfeld?

**xrayzebra** · 03-12-2008

Why is thread still alive? This subject has been wollered around
for how many times. WTC happened! Two airplanes, Saudis
were involved, AQ was involved for the "second time" and they
acknowledged they did the deed. Oh, and the first time,
Clinton was in office. Poor planning on his part. No set charges
to bring them down.......sheeeeessssh!

**Yonivore** · 03-12-2008

Originally Posted by xrayzebra

Why is thread still alive? This subject has been wollered around
for how many times. WTC happened! Two airplanes, Saudis
were involved, AQ was involved for the "second time" and they
acknowledged they did the deed. Oh, and the first time,
Clinton was in office. Poor planning on his part. No set charges
to bring them down.......sheeeeessssh!

Alex Jones must have released a new diatribe or DVD or something. I've noticed a resurgence of the "911 was an inside job; Impeach Bush, Arrest Cheney" bumper stickers being plastered around Austin, too.

**xrayzebra** · 03-12-2008

Youni, what can you say. Bush is such a dummy, smart guy,
he fools everyone while being the clown. Talk about having it
both ways.

**clambake** · 03-12-2008

damn saudi's. now their sticking it to us in barrels.

**xrayzebra** · 03-12-2008

Originally Posted by clambake

damn saudi's. now their sticking it to us in barrels.

No, our wonderful tree huggers are doing that. And you
love them for it.

**clambake** · 03-12-2008

i say we nuke all the trees just to kill part of your argument.

**xrayzebra** · 03-12-2008

^^No I say we just act like normal, rational human beings and
take care of ourselves and not depend on anyone. Alternate fuels,
at this time are not feasible. Oil is and we have plenty of it, if
some folks would just get out of the way let us go get it.
In an environmental fashion, which we are capable of doing and do everyday where we are allowed to drill.

**clambake** · 03-12-2008

you can't get rid of treehuggers if there's still one tree.

**xrayzebra** · 03-12-2008

^^nor you it seems as long as their forums for you to post in.

**BradLohaus** · 03-12-2008

Originally Posted by Yonivore

Alex Jones must have released a new diatribe or DVD or something. I've noticed a resurgence of the "911 was an inside job; Impeach Bush, Arrest Cheney" bumper stickers being plastered around Austin, too.

Maybe it's Willie.

**ChumpDumper** · 03-12-2008

Originally Posted by Galileo

# 1

The point of failure was in the same place as it would be in a controlled demolition.

Gee, then it makes sense that the building collapsed.

# 2

You didn't answer the question.

Of course I did. They would not and could not plan 9/11.

Are you suggesting the attack on Iraq and Afghanistan was not decided by Bush, Cheney, and/or Rumsfeld?

I am saying they did not plan 9/11.

Are you suggesting that they didn't know this decision would cause the deaths of thousands of innocent Americans, and many more innocent foreigners?

I am saying they did not plan 9/11.

Are you suggesting the attacks on Afghanistan and Iraq were too complicated for them to be planned and/or ordered by Bush/Cheny/Rumsfeld?

I am saying they did not plan 9/11.

Now answer my question:

What do you think really happened on 9/11?

Do you want me to bump that thread?

You would be the first to ever offer and actual theory.

**Galileo** · 03-12-2008

Originally Posted by RandomGuy

Meh.

If the 9-11 truth nuts spent even 1/10th the amount of time on the debunking websites reading stuff that they do on the conspiracy sites, I *might* have some modi or respect for them.

As it is, I have come to one inescapable conclusion.

The "truth" movement is a religion. I will start a thread on that topic as it warrants its own discussion.

the debunkers resemble a religion in their fanatical opposition to the idea that a powerful person in the government might order someone killed for political gain.

Unless someone is convicted of murder, it didn't happen.

**ChumpDumper** · 03-12-2008

Unless someone is convicted of murder, it didn't happen.

We know who the murderers are. At least one has been tried and convicted in the US. The actual hijackers are dead.

**Galileo** · 03-12-2008

Originally Posted by ChumpDumper

The actual hijackers are dead.

No one has ever determined who the hijackers were, according to the experts.

**clambake** · 03-12-2008

maybe there were no hijackers.

**Extra Stout** · 03-12-2008

The 9/11 conspiracy theorists are part of the conpsiracy. The towers are still there and are being concealed by a top-secret cloaking device. When I take LSD, I am transported past the cloaking device into the WTC lobby, which has been remodeled and now has lots of bright colors to smell.

**Extra Stout** · 03-12-2008

In fact Ron Paul and I had lunch in that restaurant on the hundred-and-somethingth floor last week. He had the braised unicorn horn, and I had the dragon tenderloin.